You're right. You don't get it. I'll try this again but doubt it will help. People are talking about Jamie Pierre now that he hucked a 245 foot cliff. The fame (or, in Jamie's case, notoriety may be more accurate) allows him to "witness his faith". If you don't know what that means, it means spreading the word about whatever it is you want to spread the word about. It's easier to spread the word if people have heard of you than if you're unknown. You have to agree that celebrities (regardless of how they became a celebrity) have an easier time of making their views known than you and I do. More people have heard about Scientology now that Tom Cruise is talking about it. Maybe Jamie will now be able to host The Powder Hour of Power Huckin and Prayin with Pastor Pierre every Sunday morning at 8:00 on RSN. Who knows, but thats what he means by opening up doors so he can witness his faith in Christianity. I'm not saying it's good, bad or indifferent but if thats what he wants to do, what do you care unless youre intolerant of his religion?
As far as the questionable sanity of his huck, the guy landed on his head and walked away with a fat lip. Evidently it's not as dangerous as most people would think. Several others have gone nearly as high without major problems I've never heard of anyone dying doing a monster huck except Paul Ruff who checked his speed before launching a sloping cliff face and landed on the rocks at the bottom. Sorry, but I'll trust the judgment of people with actual experience doing monster hucks over someone who just bitches about it on the internet. How big did you say you've gone?
I'd just rather people not decide what's best for someone else or decide what's too dangerous when they have no idea of the risks involved. The Bureaucrats at Lake Powell (who undoubtedly would shit their pants jumping from a 3 meter board) decided to ban cliff jumping this year because some people have drowned doing it. The poster announcing the ban shows a guy (who died) jumping off a 75 foot cliff and looking down as he's hitting the water! Of course you're going to knock yourself unconscious if you're looking down as you hit the water from 75 feet. Lake Powell shouldn't ban cliff diving... if they need to ban something, they should ban people who don't know what they're doing from cliff diving. Kayaking is deadly too if you don't know what you're doing. Does that mean kayaking should be banned by lawmakers who don't know the risks involved for experienced kayakers?
Or are you saying you just shouldn't do potentially deadly activities if you have a wife and kids? Many people would agree with that but I'm wondering how many "death zone" mountain climbers, motocross freestylers, or Class VI kayakers you rail against and consider irresponsible. Or is just when they make a reference to Jesus that it sets you off?
when I hear "to witness his faith" in conjunction with dropping 250', I can only imagine that he is reinforcing his belief that god is protecting him. By walking away, he has in essence witnessed a miracle, which feeds back into his faith... but whatever.
Fact of the matter is that he dropped big, the risk threshold is pretty damn high. I don't think you can say it was safe just because he didn't get hurt. People keep raising the bar and raising the bar until you have to risk your life to make a mark... Do you still get the record if you die on impact? Because I've been eying a sick line off off longs into chasm lake.
when I hear "to witness his faith" in conjunction with dropping 250', I can only imagine that he is reinforcing his belief that god is protecting him. By walking away, he has in essence witnessed a miracle, which feeds back into his faith.
I see what you're saying now. I guess there's two ways to interpret what he said. I always hear Christians talking about "bearing witness"... basically witnessing or preaching to others. If you're interpretation is right... that he's trying to cheat death to proove to himself that God's watching out for him... I guess I'd have to agree that the guy's a nut job.
Any Christians out there that want to clarify that?
All of those people who put their lives at unnecessary risk are perfectly justified in doing so. It's their life. They can jump off a cliff..they can snort blow or H until their head explodes..I don't give a shit. But if they have people that rely on them in the way a family relies on its patriarch then they are being about as selfish as a human being can be.
Any opinion to the contrary is basically indefensible.
But again...he's not my dad/husband or even acquaintance...so I really don't care if he lives or not. Just saying he's a dumbass. Dumbass.
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I hope in the future Americans are thought of as a warlike, vicious people, because I bet a lot of high schools would pick "Americans" as their mascot. -Jack Handy
Got it Bastard. Can I call you Bastard? I had you wrong. Seeing as you're so watchfull of the family unit and got nothing against Jesus, there's a great organization down in Colorado Springs you should get in touch with.
And you may want to contact Mike Metzger, Laird Hamilton and all those other nut job extreme atheletes/husbands/fathers and let them know they're on your list. Their wives would appreciate it since they had no idea that they were marrying someone who did risky things.
That's right, baby, I'm way up in the hierarchy of both FOTF and New Life...AND I have a sweet band called "INRI" where I rock my axe for Jesus. We have this incredible cover of "Iron Man" only we replace the actualy lyrics "Iron Man" with "lamb of God". I guess it's kind of about the second coming, revalation and whatnot. Totally bitchin.
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I hope in the future Americans are thought of as a warlike, vicious people, because I bet a lot of high schools would pick "Americans" as their mascot. -Jack Handy
So Jamie jumps and lives and now he has a corridor to spread his faith. Good for him. Not my bag of tricks, but to each his own. Same goes for all the Olympic athletes on the Snowboard team that are in it to win it for GOD or Jesus. Hana Teter, Any Finch, Kelly Clark all rock the "Jesus" logo on their boards. (hey kids look at my sponsor) Coming from a guy that was told at his Baptist High School that if boys have earrings and girls wear short shorts (2in above knee) that were going to hell. Organized religion my ass, talk about mind numbing control. Whats the line in the Death Cab for Cutie cut Into the Dark "Fear is the heart of Love...so I never went back" Believe all you want in this God you call the trinity. As for me, don't use a stunt to justify your faith. Sounds like OBL and the stunts he pulled. Look at me blow shit up to witness my faith. Its all a load of BS> Don't quote me cause it's just my opinion and your entitled to yours.
"Some 100 feet into the jump he said Pierre could not keep his skis under him and went upside down. He landed head first and blew a hole six feet deep in the snow."
He's disqualified. If he can't even land feet first then I don't care what he jumped off of. A corpse could have done what he did.
I will give JP the congrats for pushing the "limits" of cliffjumping. He has single-handedly figured out if a human being could survive a fall of 245 feet, landing headfirst, and in tons of snow. "But, don't try this at home kids; JP was protected by his faith in Christianity, and years of cliff hucking experience."
I agree that JP isn't just some moran without experience. He "really" does have ample experience in the art of hucking cliffs. It is an amazing thing that he was able to do, and survive, such a feat -- mentally and physically.
I understand the "I risk my life to do what I do" sports very well, and I also understand why they keep doing it. But, I can't understand why these althetes can't just thank themselves. Because, there is a good chance that their accomplishments had nothing to do with "faith in a theological figure", and had everything to do with "faith in THEIR abilities." And, sure, this IS just my opinion...
And, again, I still have yet to hear an athlete thank Jesus for their LOSS!
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