Originally Posted by Jensjustduckie
Truth, most "rangers" are not LEO and have zero rights to take anything away from you. I found this out long ago when I camped next to some non-LEO forest rangers who could do nothing to stop the drunken kegger going on until the wee hours of the morning in a primitive camping area.
I'm retired FS. 40 fire seasons and change.
I never handed out a ticket to anyone.
Outside of LEO's I recall only a few specialized areas of non-LEO's issuing tickets. This would be employees who had some training and we're ticketing within responsibility. A guy in the woodcutting program ticketing there or a trails type ticketing snowmobilers sneaking into the wilderness. That sort of stuff.
What I did do was a few times I called for an LEO.
Three times that resulted in illegal woodcutting tickets. (I'm guessing that 60-80 times I just talked with folks and pointed them in the right direction.)
I had an LEO thank me later for one of those three as they caught that guy again later cutting down big Ponderosa Snags and burning the stumps in winter to try and hide his deeds. The fact that he had priors, if you will, made it so the judge could give him a more meaningful sentence.
On a small man caused fire just inside a wilderness I recovered a couple quart water containers worth of drug stuff plus a gallon or so of general garbage. Packed it out and offered it to the LEO's, but they weren't interested. I think they saw a lot of paperwork leading nowhere. I wanted the guy starting the fire nailed but understood the chances for success were very low. The fire costs were extremely small. Had this been a big fire .........
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There is one Ranger per district. There are typically 3 -5 districts per a National Forest.
There can be a few positions with a somewhat colloquial label like Trail Ranger but for the most part everyone in green pants isn't a Ranger Rick. On the East Coast the Ranger position is more powerful with many being politically connected and on a first name basis with Congressmen. West Coast go to the Forest Supervisor level for that comparable power.
I retired well below being a Ranger
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I don't recall every feeling the need to or having the ability as a FS employee to take something from the public. Though I sure wished they'd pick up their litter and take fire seriously.