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Old 4 Weeks Ago   #1
Jay H

Profile:  Littleton, Colorado
Paddling Since: 1998
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Hey, just my 2 cents on this--I was up in the air whether to go w/ T-1's or T-2's (I have a narrow foot so I was def. in a Scarpa) back when I was first getting my gear--so I put a T-1 on one foot and a T-2 on the other to compare, and it was no contest I went with the stiffer T-1--and I started out with a pretty heavy duty set up, 185 Atomic snoodaddys with Rottefella R-8 Cobras. I was pretty similar in my alpine and boarding experience, fairly advanced, so I was pretty comfortable jumping into that set-up, and was very pleased with it

That being said though, I have read that a softer boot and less active binding are more conducive to learning better form--supposedly you can't rely on the stiff boot and binding, and are therefore forced to used better form...oh well, I pry don't have the best form, but after 3 seasons I think I've got pretty good technique, so it's kind of a toss-up from the boot/binding stiffness perspective for me--but I went with the stiff boot/binding and a big ski and was really happy

yes--a heavy, stiff boot/binding is better to drive a big, stiff ski--I've got 190 verdicts with 02 bindings now and they are a WORKOUT! But since I've got only 2 days on 'em so far for the season, I'll get used to them once the season really kicks in




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thanks...everyone says plastic boots...i got a wide foot...ill try on the garmonts first...now how heavy of a boot should i look for....do all boots work with any binding????if i got a heavy ski wouldnt i need a better binding and heavy boot???
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Old 4 Weeks Ago   #2
SSOWDEN

Profile:  denver, Colorado
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NoCo, disregard everything you have read on this thread if you really want to learn how to tele.
Boots need to be leather, buy some extra laces(red and black) as they will break. Asolo makes some good un's, but anything from the dolomite region of Italy will suffice.
Ski's should be about 20 cm longer than your alpines, old noodly bump or slalom skis are best to learn, check out what your local shop is throwing away. In a year or so you can look into some Tua cirques or sweet ruby mountains to help with the kick and glide.
Bindings should have cables instead of just the three pins, you can usually take the cables off for hiking. Voile are the best. Be carefull putting your skis on or you will end up with 6,7,11 holes instead of the three your boots came with.
Backpack should be green or any other earthy color with a side slot for water bottle, compartment for saftey kit and place to stash you shovel.
Showers are discouraged, as well as washing any of your gear. No better plan to get a club chair so you can enjoy your safety kit.
Most of all, you must stop shaving, beards are required and make you look really cool when caked in snow.
Good snorkle and beacon top it all off.

Help out buzzards, what did I miss.
The decade????

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Old 4 Weeks Ago   #3
NoCo

Profile:  Ft Collins, Colorado
Paddling Since: 2012
Join Date: Jul 2009
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well i already got the no showers thing down...now do i need an ego to go with it or is easy going ok...i only shave once a week anyway so stopping will be easy...now i need a pack shovel probe and beacon for the bunny hill...that would be cool
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Help out buzzards, what did I miss.
The decade????

lmao

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The Asolos are great boots but for performance, especially with the reinforced ankle in the Extreme Pros. But if you've got the bucks, the new "Merrill Super Comps" are what you really need.

Now for what SSOWDEN missed - the hat - it has to be the Norman Nordic type - gray wool with a Scandanavian design, with ear coverage and strings to tie it on with. Your gloves need to be ragg wool gloves or mittens with sturdy leather outers. You'll need Army surplus wool pants from Boulder Army Navy, with the big pockets on the sides for granola bars. In addition to not showering, you'll need to start working on those dredlocks. Big long dredlocks thick enough for anerobic bacteria to grow in them. You should also go vegeterian and if you have carnivorous roommates in that house you're sharing with 12 other guys and 14 dogs, you need to leave notes on their sandwich meat saying "meat is murder," "this is heinous" or other things. You'll be high powered for skinning up the hills on oatmeal, quinoa, and cabbage and don't worry, your roommates won't mind you using their seasonings and spices to make that shit edible.

And if any of your roomies are downhill skiiers, make sure to razz them about their plastic boots, plastic skis, and how anyone can ski in all that plastic gear and that even though you only get in one run a day, its out in the backcountry and in sweet waist-deep powder - sooner or later they'll come around to The Way and thank you for helping them realize the error of their plastic-loving, artificial life experience, trust me. That reminds me of the attitude you'll need: to be a true tele skiier, you'll need to have smugly self-righteous demeanor, and remember to look down your nose at the guy next to you as he steps into his downhill bindings at the lift. For that matter, you shouldn't even be riding lifts. If you REALLY want to learn to tele, you need to be out in the backcountry earning your turns. You want to be a long way away from the industrialized, mechanical, noisy, crowded clearcuts they call ski areas. If you're going to follow all this advice, you'll want to be a long, long way from where there are other people. A really long way. Please.
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Don't forget the team of Huskies to pull you up the hill! You know, Ski Dog Joring FTW!

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Jensjustduckie

Profile:  Land of Lovin, Colorado
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I thought an affinity for Patchouli was required as well?
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SSOWDEN

Profile:  denver, Colorado
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drop the knee not the bomb, yepaaaaa
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NoCo

Profile:  Ft Collins, Colorado
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ok i found some scarpa t2s fit great so i picked them up...i dont know how to size up my poles...how big of a ski should i look for...bindings???i like the funny replies keep them coming but i need some advise here...i got an old pair of 184cm carvers...there pretty fat too...will these work???
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Profile:  denver, Colorado
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t2's are good noco, take them to a shop and get some custome insoles which I need to do. Get some adjustable poles. lots of opions and dependent on use but I feel tele skis should be little longer than your allllpines, I have the full on t2 setup with the rossi t2's to go with my scarpa t2 boots. Carvers probably not great for tele setup in that I like more flex, old bump or slalom boards work great. Lot's of newer binding technology, be sure to learn how to change out the cartridge and carry a spare one with you. Hope that helps or at least doesn't hurt.
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NoCo

Profile:  Ft Collins, Colorado
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found an ad here for 188cm k2 ak enemy skiis with rotterfella r8 cobra bindings...im 6' 185lbs...what do you guys think...this guy is asking 100 for them...they sound allittle beat but i dont really mind that being a beginner...do you think that would be a good learning set up???
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