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Old 02-06-2013   #11
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First, for me.

sorry i hijacked this thread
2nd, i wanted to say, AS AN EXAMPLE, technically, i could use any number of small business or reps, sport, etc...

so that said, i was looking to adress an issue in this industry i see forthcoming that might be a concern IN GENERAL. not with them specificly.

3rd, im not yelling, just trying to edit myself, incase it is taken out of context.

4th. i like icelantic as a company. and i thought they did press in house at the never summer factory in denver, i do not know where they source their material, or how much prep is done in china if any, top sheet prints, glass layers etc. but the still press it in denver.

forwhat its worth, i want the icy stuff overlooked here in this thread, lets get this guy a good ski.

and, I forgot, man i am tired, YOU SHOULD GET....

PM gear lhasa pow, carbon or not, you decide.

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Old 02-06-2013   #12
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I would definitely recommend riding something 100mm or fatter under foot. I would also recommend something with tip and tail rocker.

Even though these aspects of a ski make it seem like they are "pow skis for experts on deep days only," a lot of the fat skis designs actually make things easier and perform well across almost all conditions. These design aspects make the ski stable and give you the option to make loose/slarvy turns if things are tight, or to throw them on edge and rail some big carves. Basically, the best of all worlds.

I would echo the sentiment of others who recommended designs like the bentchetler, rocker II, etc. You could also look at similar shaped skis that are in the 100 to 110 under foot range, as these might be a bit easier to get a handle on at first than the wider bentchetlers. Don't let a ski sales person sell you on an 80mm underfoot "all mountain ski." That really translates to "these will do well on groomers and bumps, but your buddies on fat skis will leave you in the dust on the pow days when it really counts".

See if you can get out and demo a bunch of skis that are that general shape/width and see how you like them! Good luck!

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Old 02-06-2013   #13
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Can't agree enough with suggestions of fat skis with tip and tail rocker. Also tapered tip and tail are a big plus in my book, keeps them from feeling catchy in pow and crud. I'm only 5'9" but I ski 188cm 4FRNT CRJ. Most fun I've ever had on skis and they are fun in all conditions. They ski way shorter on groomer and are super playful but will still carve if you want them too. They feel way quicker than 118mm under foot has any right to be. A ski like that is something you wouldn't outgrow quickly.
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Old 02-06-2013   #14
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I used to think that this super fat reverse rocker tip/tail blah blah blah was a bunch of bs. Then I got a pair of Atomic charters and love them. They make tele so much easier! Now it seems like ski lengths are getting longer again with this newer design. It's awesome!
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Old 02-06-2013   #15
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Originally Posted by bobbuilds View Post
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Old 02-07-2013   #16
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I'm not too keen on Icelantic as their production is all in China. It's not that foreign production is bad. It's that they put on this Colorado persona when other Colorado and US producers make their skis domestically. Of course, I don't know where my BDs were made and my Dynastars (French company) were made in Spain. So, yes, I'm kind of a douche by judging Icelantic or any other CO company for not producing in the US.

Iceys are pressed in Denver - not sure where you're getting your info from but they are definitely NOT manufactured in China.

Maybe you are confusing them with Ski Logik that outsources their production to China, pretty ski's but eff that business model.
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Old 02-07-2013   #17
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Originally Posted by Jensjustduckie View Post
Iceys are pressed in Denver - not sure where you're getting your info from but they are definitely NOT manufactured in China.

Maybe you are confusing them with Ski Logik that outsources their production to China, pretty ski's but eff that business model.
I'm glad you pointed it out because I am indeed mistaken. It's not Icelantic. I committed heinous liable on Icelantic. It was Liberty with their bamboo cores. Rather than ship the bamboo here, they just produce there. So, to Icelantic, I offer my apologies for spreading rumors. To Liberty, start making your shit here already.
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Old 02-08-2013   #18
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I love my Icelantic keepers. The are one of the best powder skis that I have ever been on and made in Colorado. I got them early season two years ago for a good deal at a local WP shop.
I also picked up a pair of Armada, TST which rip everything. Skied lots of groomer and they rip there. Just got them out to breck last week for a 10/18 inch day and they worked pretty well, kind of wish I had my keepers that day.

Day 55 in the books at Vail Pass, it was ok.
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Old 02-11-2013   #19
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Skied on these all weekend pretty sick ski. Rossignol Experience 88 Ski |
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Those Rossi's you tried will be fun on hardpack and bumps, but they'll be less than ideal in other conditions. You will still be able to use them, but you'll be missing out on some fun.

All the comments on going wider / fatter are spot on. Big skis are not just for powder anymore; they carve super well on groomers, pound crud, etc. I'd say 100 underfoot at the very least, but personally, I'd recommend getting up to 110 or more. The equipment has evolved; take advantage.

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