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Old 01-04-2005   #1
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Havocs or Crossbows?

I'm trying to narrow down my choices for an all in one AT ski setup. I hear that the Havoc is a great fat powder/hucker's board but is it too fat for the average colorado icy crud run? Is the Crossbow up to the occasional 20ft huck?

How about bindings? Is the fritschi freeride to beefy for a 5'8 165lb guy?
Is the expres too light for serious downhill?
How many questions can I ask in one thread?

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Old 01-04-2005   #2
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Another good choice is the BD Ethic, which is very similar in construction and "feel" to the Havoc but with more versatile dimensions. I used the Havoc as my main ski last year, but have been skiing the Ethic quite a bit since Spring and like its versatility. It is symmetrical, unlike the Crossbow, and will outski it in most conditions.

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Old 01-05-2005   #3
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So what are the draw backs on the Havoc?
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Old 01-05-2005   #4
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I can't comment on the skis. I ski an AT set up on Seth Pistols and Pocket Rockets and love both for touring and fat days in bounds. I will say that I use the freerides exclusively and love them. The touring is smooth and easy to use. They are not that heavy and the din setting is really useful. I love to huck cliffs and have found the Freerides to be up to snuff. I even used this set up in the park this weekend at CB after the Headwall got skied off. If you like skiing aggressively and airing I don't know why you would go with the express. I am 6' and 170lbs.
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Old 01-06-2005   #5
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They only drawback on the Havocs are that they are pretty beefy for a powder ski and with your weight you might want to consider a shorter length. I weigh 195 and ski the 183cm.
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