Bindings

[hojo]

I need to get some new bindings. There are so many choices that I'm rather off put buy the lack of comparable info. One can never tell if a review is really just a sales pitch. Anyway, these are for a pair of Dynastar TroubleMaker Limited skis. Just skis, no binding plate.

I'm looking at a few bindings such as:
Look PX 12 series (both the PX12 and PX12 Ti Lifter)
Dynastar equivlents of the PX12 (same binding as far as I can tell)
Salomon STH 12 and Z12 series

I ski everything from off piste to masters racing (though I'm not huge on park/pipe). I'm the type of skier that doesn't like to stop and lollygag on the hill.

Any ideas here?

[bobbuilds]

ATOMIC FFG 14

[COUNT]

My take (yes, it is biased):

Salomons and Atomics are heavy.

Never trust a Marker.

I like the Dynastars, Looks, and Rossi's because they don't release when you don't want them to, they have little or no required plate to mount them on, and they're relatively light.

A binding with the wings (like the Salomon's and Looks) on the toepiece will be less likely to release. That's a pro for some people and a con for others (depends how limber you are in different positions).

The old Looks from the 90's are bomber, don't release, and are super cheap. Probably the best binding ever made.

My .02.

COUNT

[hojo]

Originally Posted by bobbuilds

ATOMIC FFG 14

Ok.. looks like it's based on a Salomon design. Why should I take this one over the Salomon STH series?

[bobbuilds]

same binder. differant name. ok I have a better one for you, rossignol sas2 200 xxl. It will cost.

have you looked at tyrolia? or fischer? the head mojo 12 ?

[ZGjethro]

look for Look p12 or p14. Very similar to current Look,Dynastar,Rossi bindings but they do not have the plate design, which is versatile but heavy. The old p series also has the rotary heal which the current px series does not have.

[hojo]

Originally Posted by ZGjethro

look for Look p12 or p14. Very similar to current Look,Dynastar,Rossi bindings but they do not have the plate design, which is versatile but heavy. The old p series also has the rotary heal which the current px series does not have.

Is the rotary heal of any benefit? I'm to understand they all have lateral travel in the heel bit these days.

[ZGjethro]

Im not sure my new px14 bindings have a lateral heel movement. I like the rotary heel as I think it gives a smoother toe release. Another plus is the very short heel of the rotary model which flexes smoother and weighs less. The short length can be view as a negative in that there is less adjustability. Ultimately, bindings are like trucks. Some guys like Chevy and others like Ford. They all work and there are a lot of opinions.

[hojo]

Originally Posted by ZGjethro

Im not sure my new px14 bindings have a lateral heel movement. I like the rotary heel as I think it gives a smoother toe release. Another plus is the very short heel of the rotary model which flexes smoother and weighs less. The short length can be view as a negative in that there is less adjustability. Ultimately, bindings are like trucks. Some guys like Chevy and others like Ford. They all work and there are a lot of opinions.

Overall that's what I was thinking as far as most binding being similar within the ranges. I never considered the heel rotation as helping with toe release though. It makes sense. Thanks for the info.

[lmyers]

Before I switched over to telemark I swore by Look. Their bindings last forever, don't weigh a ton, and don't release at a 5+ din setting unless you have a serious wipeout. My last Look binding setup was purchased about 6 years ago, so I don't know if anything with them has changed, but I am very happy with the product I purchased.