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Old 09-25-2016   #71
 
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I'm already on Medicare. Jeeze, we're all about instant gratification these days.
Like wanting a wrapped raft back now.

You're right.

People need patience.
Too much complaining.

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Old 09-25-2016   #72
 
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This was all happening when the normal beginners section of the San M. from sawpit down was 3+ with holes an IK'er ( Me ) skirted around for self preservation.
One of our IK'er's flipped below Caddis and we tried to get his boat for over 3 miles un-sucessfully until it finally eddy'ed at the house where the lady in the commercial trip had almost died.
The woman who lives there said she had made cookies for all the rescuers.
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Old 09-26-2016   #73
 
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Take your time, this is by far the best read on the Buzz in a while..
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Old 09-26-2016   #74
 
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Shakespeare never mentioned any books in his will.
Mark Twain, among others, pointed that out.

Shakespeare's books included a vocabulary of over 31,000 words. It is estimated that his total vocabulary could have been in the 65,000 range.
The average english speaker has a vocabulary of 10,000 - 20,000 words.
There is no known english speaker with the vocabulary of Shakespeare.

Shakespeare didn't write all those books.

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Stay with me.
At some point we may come to the realization that this 'SM story telling' is by multiple authors. On the understanding that this couldn't have all happened on one river float if nothing else.

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Is this San Miguel Epic a Comedy or a Tragedy?
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Is this San Miguel Epic a Comedy or a Tragedy?

Right now I would vote for a comedic tragedy story!

Comedic due to the fact all of us (myself included) just cannot stop checking this thread hoping for next installment.

Tragic due to the way this Gent has hooked all us Buzzards on a story that seems too dramatic to be true, but who knows till we get the next scrap thrown our way.
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Old 09-26-2016   #76
 
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Did any Shakespeare capture Stockholm Syndrome?

You know. Where those being held hostage start liking their captor(s)?
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Old 09-27-2016   #77
 
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No river runners from Ashland here?

OK.
I'll say it.

The Taming of the Shrew is arguably Stockholm Syndrome used for the husbands benefit.
IT IS A COMEDY.

Just for perspective.
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Old 09-27-2016   #78
 
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See this?

The Largest Vocabulary in Hip Hop

I would like to see some analysis on this thread by the time we get to the end of this story....



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Shakespeare never mentioned any books in his will.
Mark Twain, among others, pointed that out.

Shakespeare's books included a vocabulary of over 31,000 words. It is estimated that his total vocabulary could have been in the 65,000 range.
The average english speaker has a vocabulary of 10,000 - 20,000 words.
There is no known english speaker with the vocabulary of Shakespeare.

Shakespeare didn't write all those books.

=======

Stay with me.
At some point we may come to the realization that this 'SM story telling' is by multiple authors. On the understanding that this couldn't have all happened on one river float if nothing else.

======

Is this San Miguel Epic a Comedy or a Tragedy?
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Old 09-27-2016   #79
 
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See this?

The Largest Vocabulary in Hip Hop

I would like to see some analysis on this thread by the time we get to the end of this story....
That refers to just words created by the artists.

Not ones they knew and utilized in their art.

However, with the explanation that Shakespeare was not just one artist it casts an interesting light.

It would have made Muhammad Ali smile.
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That refers to just words created by the artists.

Not ones they knew and utilized in their art.

However, with the explanation that Shakespeare was not just one artist it casts an interesting light.

It would have made Muhammad Ali smile.
You didn't read the article did you?

It is an accounting and analysis of the number of individual words used in the first 35,000 words on their albums and compares it to Shakespeare. Included within that are the words they created, but also "normal" more widely words. He also included "slangiffied" words like "Fo Sho" and "Nahmeen" as seperate from "for sure" and "no what I mean". Shakespeare is know to do similar things with his words to fit the iambic pentameter, so that seems fair to me.

The rapper with the highest vocabulary as specified by that article had 7392 different words compared to 5170 for Shakespeare. So at least compared to the first part of Shakespeare's career there ARE modern equivalents.

Both hip hop and iambic pentameter lend to an expanded vocabulary due to need to stick to specific cadences and rules. Hip Hop is much more freeform, but each song usually sticks to a beat and you have to find words to fit with the flow of that beat.

The possibility of Shakespeare being multiple people or for him to have collaborated or hired out for other writers is certainly there. However, I also think that extraordinary people come around often enough that I believe he could have just had a near super human ability to form words as well. The entire western world was focused on art and creation during that time. Today we see it more in science and business, but the geniuses of that time often focused on art and music and the prestige it brought them.

hahaa... the water really has dropped and everyone is getting bored huh? Who here expected a thread about a stolen/pinned raft to evolve into a thread about the vocabulary of Shakespeare?
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