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Old 04-12-2011   #1
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Zing or Wing or What

I was thinking about getting in a good camping awning like the NRS River Wing or MRS Zing. I know they are pricey. How do they hold up? Are they worth it? Are there better values?

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Old 04-12-2011   #2
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A friend has a MSR Outfitter wing (predecessor to the Zing). Trying to set that thing up for the first time and not realizing it has 7 'corners' made for quite a misadventure. I have no idea why both the Zing and River Wing cost so much. Kelty's Noah's tarp seems like a far more reasonable price point ($70-80ish for the 16'x16' model - that's a 23' diagonal! You could buy 4 of them for the price of one MSR or NRS), but it offers less useful coverage. All the tarps require strong guy lines and anchors - sometimes easy, sometimes problematic.

Another friend has a screened in free standing shelter. Handles wind and not too blowing rain really well (the fine screen material slows down minor/moderate blowing rain). Made a great kitchen on a rainy cold pre-season Middle Fork last year.

For my $350 and being a rafter (so the extra weight of the screen houses isn't a big deal) I'd rather get a self supporting shelter.

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Old 04-12-2011   #3
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I bought some ripstop nylon and sewed one. 5 years so far. cost about $50 in materials including grommets. I wash in waterproofing every year.
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Old 04-12-2011   #4
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Always looked enviously at these NRS Wings and MSR Zings, but never opted for one...

Back in the Fall we got one of these massive shelters from Eureka
Eureka Northern Breeze Tent - Camping Tents

in hopes of using it during late/early season trips in foul weather. We have not actually field tested it yet, but setting it up and playing with it in the yard I feel confident in saying it can and will hold up to some serious wind if guyed and staked properly. One bonus is the fact that all four side panels come down to complete a full 10x10 room in face of serious adverse conditions or drawback is the is F'n huge and heavy to carry around, but would provide true 4 season protection (i hope) during rain, snow, wind etc.

What we currently use is the Kelty Sunshade...
Kelty Sunshade

saw these up at Telluride Bluegrass a few years back and had to have one. Finally got one and it has served us very well during some hot summer trips the past few seasons. It is a little more cost effective than some of the others, and is also free standing. I have seen this stand up well to medium winds without any guy lines, but have heard horror stories of these just getting mauled under high wind conditions...another draw-back is also weight, as it weighs in around 18 pounds i think...heavy. but not nearly as bulky as the Eureka. This one is good for lounging, but would not be as great for a kitchen as the room under the shade is angled and limited.

Curious to hear about what others say as far as the wing/zing...this is all I got, but both options will/do work for us.

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Old 04-12-2011   #5
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Have a Kelty Noah's, we like it. Go big on size. We have the 9 ft one and it doesn't cover as much as you'd think. I cannot make any sense either of why the Wing and Zing cost soooo much. You can get a good tent with poles from MSR for cheaper than what they're asking for just a piece of cloth. Maybe i'm missing something.
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Old 04-12-2011   #6
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I have a msr wing. The design is very resistant to wind. Coverage from blowing rain is improved by angling the sides down. Really nice to camp under in a downpour. Has been a lifesaver when the weather sucks. The overall quality is excellent. I'm kind of a loyalist to MSR products. The price is a little steep, but completely worth it.
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Old 04-12-2011   #7
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Another vote for the MSR wing. Mine's 7/8+ years old and provided cover in many foul weather early season MF and Selway trips, adn the thing still works like new.
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Old 04-12-2011   #8
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I have also been contemplating a river wing purchase and have not been able to make up my mind with regard to brand. My husband and I often do solo trips and I have been a little worried that the MSR Zing or the NRS Wing might be challenging for 2 people to set up in a strong wind. Opinions?

Here's another river tarp that I'm considering:
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Old 04-12-2011   #9
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CCS makes some really nice SilNylon tarps in many sizes with lots of tie down/anchor points. Good quality stuff.

10x10 - 1.1oz silicone Tarp - Green
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Silnylon is great stuff, especially for light weight backpacking gear. I would be a little cautious with larger sized tarps as the wind force can tear the eyelets out of the fabric.

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