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Old 04-14-2011   #21
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The Kelty Noah's 16 served us well last year on the Salt, Snake and a couple Rogue trips.
Good price for it here
The catenary cut is able to take strong winds as well as any other fly we've used in the past and this one is much lighter.
The 16' version set up on oars provided comfortable shelter for a full kitchen and eight people and it stood strong in a very violent storm in Hell's Canyon.
Only on the late September Rogue trip did we get wet under it.
Seems like being packed wet a couple days in a row somehow defeats the water resistance and we would have condensation drops form on the underside.
Someone mentioned restoring the water resistance with some kind of wash. What product is that and how is it used?

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Old 04-14-2011   #22
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Originally Posted by slamkal View Post
I like the steel rings idea What would be really cool if an oar maker sold a lightweight thing with sharp pointed tip ( like an oar extender with a tentpole end) that replaced the blade and snapped into the end of the shaft
Great idea......sounds like something I could make from a broken blade.

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Old 04-15-2011   #23
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Originally Posted by brasscap

Which place in Caldwell sells the fabric? How wide is it?

You might find out if they have 420 Denier Nylon. That is what the tarps at Cascade are made of.
The store is Outdoor Wilderness Fabrics. I believe their 'yard' is 60" wide and 36" long.
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Old 04-16-2011   #24
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Waterproofing Wash?

Originally Posted by fiya79 View Post
I bought some ripstop nylon and sewed one. 5 years so far. cost about $50 in materials including grommets. I wash in waterproofing every year.
What is this waterproofing wash product and process?
Sounds better than cans of Camp Dry aerosol for something 16'x16'
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Old 04-16-2011   #25
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know any construction workers? tyvek home wrap. as a tarp, waterproof. doubt wind will tear it. put grommets in it. weighs almost nothing. a 10x10 packs into a softball size clump.

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