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Old 06-05-2012   #21
Durango, Colorado
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I paddled an Eskimo Salto for nearly ten years until I finally tore through the hull on the Upper Animas last fall. A month ago I bought a large Pyranha Shiva. It is a large boat so it has taken me a bit to get used to. I really like the swede form which makes it easy to keep a vertical paddle stroke for such a large boat. I like it more and more each time I paddle it.

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Old 06-06-2012   #22
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The villain paddles smaller than it looks. My favorite boat so far. I have a 2011 and don't care for the outfitting.

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Old 06-06-2012   #23
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Aww, quit playing games. You know you want the Stomper. Just get the Stomper. Everybody wants the Stomper.
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Old 06-06-2012   #24
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I want a stomper.
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Old 06-06-2012   #25
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PURE XL! i 've paddled and broken various other boats, including jefes and nomads, and the pure xl paddles way better and has a 5 YEAR WARRANTY!!!! it's a bit more expensive but you'll break 5 boats from the other brands before the warranty on the pure xl expires. Dont get the regular pure, it doesnt paddle as good as good as the xl, even if you're a smaller person. The seat kind of sucks, but i'd recommend removing it as well as the bulkhead and customizing it yourself with foam, you'll drop 10 lbs of german over-engineering and then you can fly with it without getting overweight charges (it'll be about 40 lbs.) You can get cheap outfitting foam from Kayak Outfitting, foam, neoprene, and accessories for your boat.
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Old 06-06-2012   #26
Beaverton, Oregon
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I run the Shiva and Burn, both in M. The Shiva comes out for anything overnight or very vertical, and the Burn for low water, long hikes (it is 10 lbs lighter) or big water. Both will do what the other does, but they each have their strong suits that I like to play to.

I think I can boof bigger in the Shiva, which is good because landing flat in the Burn does hurt. It is easy to switch edges mid-air in both, but easier to kick down the nose of the Burn. The Burn tracks much better in pushy water, while the Shiva's nose gets pushed around a little. The Shiva is a much faster boat in a straight line. With the Burn you need to be very careful about facing your hull to the current, and it loves to be thrown around. Aggressiveness is rewarded with that boat with you are coming into an eddy: put the nose in at the top of the eddy, crank it over to 60', put the paddle blade at the top of eddy and call your chiropractor for the whiplash.

As for the others, I'm not a fan of the Villain, Nomad, Jefe or Stomper. They just don't hook into eddies the way I like. I love knowing that I will stop in that eddy just above certain doom.
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Old 06-06-2012   #27
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Apparently the Mystick Tuna and Jackson Zen aren't too shabby. And the Zet boats... not sure if you can get that in the US though.
On the river, I can abandon who I am and what I've done. However brief it lasts, while on the river I am nothing important and everything insignificant. I am flotsam, and happy to be so.
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Old 06-06-2012   #28
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Just get a Nomad. The others just want to be like the Nomad anyway.
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Old 06-07-2012   #29
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Shiva all the way. True, it makes you work for your line in really big water, but everywhere else its just so much fun to paddle. I think it's super responsive for its size.
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Stomper 90 For Sale

If you all want a Stomper so badly, I have a 90 for sale that's in excellent shape.

$850.00 and you can own it.

Call or text me at 970.903.0474 or send me a message at

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