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Old 12-10-2012   #21
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Originally Posted by Beeks
4 bay frame, oars, dry box, cooler, straps, ropes, drop bags, fire pan, pumps, etc. Essentially everything to go boating for a week or two plus some.
You didnt mention the quality or condition of the used gear

Lets put some prices on some of this for good gear retail:
4 bay frame $800
3 oars/blades $600
Straps $100
Pumps $150
Firepan $200
Drybox $350
Cooler $350
Drop bags $200

So about $2800 to outfit a boat pretty nicely with decent gear, assuming thats what you want to do. If you buy with a new boat or wait for a sale, subtract 15-25%

Now is he including a used cooler worth $350 or a walmart special worth $50? Are the oars/blades cataracts/sawyers or 10 year old carlisles? Is the frame welded aluminum or is it emt steel? His included gear value can range anywhere from $1000 to $3500 depending on quality and condition

Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it "guaranteed", I will. I got spare time.
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Old 12-10-2012   #22
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Hysides are solid boats. But what kind of sticks, drybox, and frame are we talking here??? How "used" is the equipment. Any pics? Was the boat stored indoors?

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Old 12-10-2012   #23
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Originally Posted by zbaird View Post
The mid 90's hysides are hard to beat. They still had mil valves but thats the only downside.
My 10+ year old Hyside has military valves (Leafield prv on the floor).

I've never had a problem with them. Have I been lucky? What is the downside to them? Except for the Leafields being easier to use.

Great boat, I'm glad I bought it.
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Old 12-10-2012   #24
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Ease of use is the main downside. The other is that the boots crack. The boots are real stiff rubber and if they are repeatedly rolled and stored with the valve boot creased they eventually crack.

Retro fitting them with c-7's is a chore since you have to get the old boot out to be done correctly. It takes a good amount of time to carefully remove the old boot, insert the c-7 boot and inside/outside patch the holes. I charge $200 for one valve and offer discounts on multiples.

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