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Old 04-16-2009   #1
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What kind of bag for self support?

What kind of bag do you use for self support? I'm thinking 30 degree. I would imagine synthetic has traditionally been the way to go. What about a down bag with a waterproof/breathable shell?

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Down with a waterproof shell is nice, but often overkill. At that level of 4-season bag, I tell people they become a one season bag ( Too much other than full on winter).

For anykind of river usage you should be looking for non-down. I would look at a quality 20 degree bag. If you need warmer partner up the bag with a waterproof bivy.

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My self support happens out of my IK, rather than a hardshell. Because my drybags get so much wetter than they would in a hardshell, I subscribe to the "watershed or bust" theory of packing. Nothing else is really a drybag, they are splash bags.

With that said, I prefer down because it is warmer for the weight and more compressible. Trusting my drybag lets me go that route. I do like a waterproof breathable shell, and typically pack my 10 degree bag for fall, winter, or spring trips. In the summer, I'll use a 20 degree bag with just a nylon shell. A 40 degree 1 lb down bag for those perfect weather ultralight trips.

but if you aren't 100% sure your bags will be dry, take a synthetic bag.
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Posts: 365 sells great ultralight shelters. the one have is much more comfy than my bivvy, and is lighter and packs smaller than my bivvy.

Survived a night of torrential rain in it with 2 people and a cotton covered down duvet. We were dry and warm, and the only tent to be so in the morning. Not bad for a 24oz single wall shelter.
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