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Old 07-25-2010   #1
Bishop, California
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What Kayak?

I am 5'10". 192#, 67 year old with several years experience using my Aire inflatable kayak (with thigh straps and foot pegs) on class 2 to 3 water (up to 20mi runs).
I generally boat lower flows (500 to 1500cfs).

I want to try using a hard shell, and if I feel OK after taking a few lessons, by a boat.

Play moves, other than a bit of surfing, don't interest me.

My wishes are ease of wet exit, ease of roll, nimble handling and general stability on hard class three water.

Ideas so far are:
Jackson 4Fun
Pyranha Ammo M
Jackson Hero
Dagger GT 8.1
WS Diesel 80

Thanks for any comments.

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Old 07-26-2010   #2
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You should also have a look at the Fluid Detox. The Medium or Large

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Old 07-26-2010   #3
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You are right on with either the Hero or Diesel. They are two of the best boats ever made and would be money well invested.
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Old 07-26-2010   #4
Lakewood, Colorado
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4fun has a huge cockpit, so wet exit is very easy. Getting in is also easy because of the amount of knee room. Its also very easy to roll. Probably more playboat than you want and if you do not sit up it will stern squirt in small holes.
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Old 07-26-2010   #5
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Have a look at the Dagger Mamba too.
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Old 07-26-2010   #6
Cheyenne, Wyoming
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No disrespect intended but, due to your years. I would look into a Liquid Logic Remix 69 or the Jefe Grande. The outfitting is second to none, kind of like your lazy boy at home. Super easy to roll and very nimble.
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Old 07-27-2010   #7
Winston-Salem, North Carolina
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You should also take a look at the Pyranha Karnali, Pyranha Everest, or the new Jackson Villain as well.

Good Luck and happy boating.
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Old 07-27-2010   #8
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Seen several new folks in remix's this year and its worked well for them and they love them. Let comfort be your guide in the beginning. If it doesnt feel comfy in the store then it will only be worse after hours in the boat. As my back ages, I find the comfort of my burn to be a large part of my love for it.
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Old 07-27-2010   #9
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I have a LL Remix 69. I also have a LL Biscuit 65.

I'm 5'8" and 205. Body type, I'm smaller and muscle dense, so the boat is actually a little large on me. I can fit dry bags, a cooler, a television, a bed, a stove and a kitchen sink in the cockpit with me and still roll the thing.

The LL Remix is hands down the easiest and most comfortable boat I've been. When I was doing lessons I tried Dagger Mamba and Nomad, Jackson Fun, Star and Hero... then LiquiLogic Jefe and Remix. Also, as mentioned above, the outfitting, magnifique! I'd highly recommend this boat. I'd only suggest the Remix > Jefe due to the edges on the Remix. It's a whole lot less squirrely in moving water. I'm not a creeker anyhow. Yet...
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Old 07-27-2010   #10
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Originally Posted by jd123 View Post
Have a look at the Dagger Mamba too.
X2 definitely

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