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Old 08-08-2012   #11
Shelby, North Carolina
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A little back ground info on me.... I've paddled my friend's Remix 79 and it was ok. I loved the outfitting! It was super comfy, but didn't think it handled as well as the mamba IMO. I got to demo a Diesel 80 for about 15 minutes so not enough time with that boat to give a good opinion of it yet. I'll demo it again soon (i hope). Talking with a few other people, i've been told i need to demo a newer Burn cause it will be similar to the mamba.?? Also, i haven't seen anyone with a Karnali, but from the very few reviews i've read on the Karnali it sounds like a very easy and forgiving boat to paddle???

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Old 08-09-2012   #12
Columbus, Indiana
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Burn, Diesel, and Mamba are pretty close in design. All are semi-planing, around the same length, volume, and rocker. They'll paddle just slightly different, but the general concept is pretty much the same.

I really like my 2010 Burn (the new version). I also have paddled my wifes mamba. The mamba felt VERY familiar. I'd say the mamba felt a bit more forgiving, but they both paddled similarly. I have not paddled a Diesel because nobody around here caries wavesport, but from everything I have seen/read, it is a very similar boat as well.

For those saying remix.....It's not similar to a mamba. It's a great boat, but it is not similar to a mamba.

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Old 08-09-2012   #13
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Karnali or new hero are better choice... I have a new mamba and sometime have same problem with numbness.. But really love boat and way it paddles..
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Old 08-09-2012   #14
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Just did a Brown's float with someone in a Mamba and another in a Diesel. The Diesel has definitely got more edginess, with a couple of additional edges and a flatter planning hull. The Mamba has less edges, and more rocker. However, they are still fairly similar.

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