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Old 03-07-2011   #1
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Werner DD vs. AT2

I'm jumping in on either a double diamond or AT2 in the next few weeks. I'm about a 60/40 (creek/play), so I'm really interested in getting a decent crossover paddle.

I'm aware of the werner vs. AT in the reviews and blogs. It seems werner is going to be a bit more durable but AT may be a better all around stick.

I'm hoping a few buzzards may have field experience with both of these paddles in the hole and on some good runs. I'm just hoping to get some opinions on which of these will be the better one quiver paddle.

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Old 03-07-2011   #2
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At2 is the one quiver paddle, I switched from at since I creek more. Either way I know you will be happy....

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Old 03-07-2011   #3
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I have seen AT's break at a 10-20X greater rate, that being said I only really creek so the break rate is much greater creeking vs playboating. I think they are both good paddles and if you can afford either, just go with the one that feels better to you.
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Old 03-07-2011   #4
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I can't deny that the Werner's are probably stronger, but I'm sold on the AT2. I like the feel of it so much that I'm okay knowing I might break it. And I've only broken one, on a big drop. I have an AT2 that made it through 3 full seasons of heavy use, and now we still use it for non-creeking runs. I river run, creek, and used to playboat a lot. I carry a breakdown paddle for piece of mind.

I have a lot of friends that only use the Werner DD. You can't go wrong with either if you are running drops under 30'. If you plan to huck your meat 40' or more repeatedly, then you might want the Werner.
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Old 03-07-2011   #5
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AT superduty has a lifetime warranty on the shaft


for all the people that regularly break AT paddles, AT has an answer...

For a few dollars more( $70 actually) you can get the Superduty which has a Lifetime warranty on the shaft. The shaft has an internal "I beam" perpendicular to the blades.

Obviously there are no guarantees that you will not lose this paddle, and $500 is a lot for a paddle, but it should bring some creekers a little peace of mind.

WE have them in stock in all sizes at Confluence Kayaks

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Old 03-07-2011   #6
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On AT bent shaft the blades are placed slightly behind the hand position for power. Once you get used to this you will love it. Werner bent shaft are alighned to feel more like a straight shaft and once you are used to the AT feel you won't like werners.
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Old 03-07-2011   #7
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I used to have a AT, did not feel right. Sold it before it broke.

I got the DD bent shaft and it does feel right.

I use the DD bent shaft on flat water, on creek runs I use a Shogun straight. Go back and forth pretty easily.

Might be just me but I feel the DD bent is good for flat water power
I feel a lot more in control of the blade with the Shogun straight shaft.

Werner paddles are hard to beat and have survived when most others went out of business or else got brought out.
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Old 03-07-2011   #8
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I LOVE AT feel....then I got fed up...
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Old 03-07-2011   #9
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I let my buddy borrow my Werner Shogun, and he snapped the blade. Mind you, this was in Bouncer Down The Middle on the NF Payette, which isn't a tame river by any standard. I'm just pointing out that no paddle is indestructible.

I say go with what feels right first and foremost. I'd rather have a responsive paddle that helps me make the moves that keep me safe. I can replace a paddle much easier than parts of myself. Don't shy away from AT if you like the paddle.

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