Yo, the first brand new boat I had was a Jive. I had many great days on the rio in that boat. At the time when the boat came out, it was considered to be a play boat, but as designs progressed-just like the volkl snow ranger, the boat began to loose its apeal. Really, it's more like a river boat now-comfortable, predictable, good for big water. For steep waves, the 8,4" necky hull is simply too fast and pearling is an issue. But for a cheap, all around river boat, it's a good one. If you want to progress in the world of play boating though, get something shorter.