i took a swim in a sketchy spot (for me) on a small local creek (class 4 and i didn't have a creek boat),that i have done more successfully quite a few times, and as i was exiting, i guess i wanted out pretty bad, cuz i broke the plastic piece on my backband, and apparently pushed on the floor with my feet, hard enough to push the floor past the screws through the bottom of of the boat that hold the 'd-bone' subframe in place. (nice design, putting screwholes in the bottom of the boat
). so now i have a juice with a hole in the floor, and i have been too busy to see if they'll hook me with a new boat.
on the bright side of things though, i did get a used creek boat,instead of slacking....
so yeah, another vote for dagger.
and what's up with the plastic? my juice, and my old outlaw,(i do like the shapes, and esp. the outlaw, was very comfortable for a stocky person) both were oilcanned pretty drastically, and the plastic doesn't seem very strong on the newer (last couple of years)dagger boats.a friends old infrared though, is really stiff (and heavy) -more like a pyrana -which i can stand on upside down, and it barely flexes.... are the new daggers different plastic than the older ones, or just is there just less of it?
i think i'd rather have a durable boat that is a little heavier.....
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