Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-06-2011   #31
Beaverton, Oregon
Paddling Since: 2005
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 569
I had the 80 out today for a demo on the Truss. I paddle a M Burn normally, and a Mystic before that, and I was looking for a little more stability in pushy water. I wasn't very pleased with the boat overall.

- Outfitting is fantastic, though the knee position is higher than I am used to
- I adjusted the boat to fit in less than two minutes
- Easy to roll, as tested in Upper Zig Zag
- Boofs very well
- Fast in a straight line
- Secondary stability
- Not bothered by crossing currents (those from the side)

- The "edge" doesn't bite. I fell over in Upper ZZ because I leaned into a corner and the boat kept moving under me
- Eddies are tougher to catch
- The nose will move sideways when hit from the side unless you are counteracting
- Didn't really track well in rapids
- Felt like hole bait
- Requires large numbers of draw and Dufeck strokes to keep on line
- The seat felt high
- The pillars and seat rail had an inch of front to back motion

I think in summary the boat felt sloppy to me. It felt like it required a lot of attention to keep it pointed where I wanted it. It also had a tendency to missile launch in a way that I'm not used to seeing when I didn't get the nose up. It is possible that at 155, I don't carry enough weight to make the boat do what I need it to. Towards the second half of the run it started to make more sense as I added more and more backband, but it was a consistently awkward experience. To an extent, it reminded me of the Villain S in the way that it bobbed around. Perhaps it would have been better with the seat moved forward an inch, or if LL makes a Stomper 75, but the 80 isn't going to take up residence in my garage.

brandob9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2011   #32
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 9
I haven't paddled the burn or the mystic. I can imagine that the Stomper is less edgy that the Burn but should feel similarly to the mystic.

I haven't noticed any tracking or edging issues yet, but I'm in the 90 and am over 200lbs. The seat is actually lower than in last years Jefe. Have you paddled a pure displacement-hulled boat? If so, how did it feel for you?

tim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2011   #33
Beaverton, Oregon
Paddling Since: 2005
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 569
I remember paddling the original rocker and thinking that it was ok other than the greased log sensation. Also, my first boat was a Pyranha Attak, which was more displacement than planing.

brandob9 is offline   Reply With Quote

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Topic Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
LL stomper? steven Kayaking | Gear Talk 23 08-18-2011 10:45 AM
New Liquidlogic Creek Boat. The Stomper shanebenedict Commercial Posts 9 08-02-2011 06:34 AM
Stomper designer shares guru secrets and talks about musical. ckspaddler Whitewater Kayaking 0 07-13-2011 04:36 PM
Liquidlogic Stomper on the Lil-White, WA ross Whitewater Kayaking 2 06-29-2011 05:18 PM
Pyrahna feedback seangar5 Whitewater Kayaking 0 11-18-2010 10:01 AM

» Classified Ads
AT and AT4 paddles

posted by CFriday

AT Paddle is a 194cm and AT4 paddle is 197. Both are in...

Used Pyranha 9R...

posted by Rendezvous River Sports


Jackson Karma Small...

posted by Rendezvous River Sports


Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities

Copyright 2002-2012 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:43 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.