Originally Posted by Anchorless
Also, insofar as measurables go:
Villain - Vol: 92.5, Length: 8'8" Width: 27" Weight: 45lbs Height: 15'5"
Stomp- Vol: 90.0 Length: 8'5" Width: 27" Weight: 49lbs Height: ---
I have noticed that more than one kayak company is fond of understating the weight of their boats. Maybe by mistake, but whatever;
Sizes/Specs Jackson Kayak – Whitewater, Recreational, Touring and Fishing kayaks
Villain linear is stated as 41 lbs
Villain crosslink is stated as 45 lbs.
I'll be the first to admit that my bathroom scale is not the most accurate scale in the world, but it does have a wheel for zeroing it, and it is consistent, appears to be +/- a half a pound. That said, my linear Villain (dry and empty, airbags out) is around 51 pounds.
My Jefe Grande was closer to 50 lbs; the Villain was a bit heavier when I compared those two.
My Nomad 8.5 is 45 to 46 lbs.
I no longer have the Jefe Grande, but I just compared the Villain and Nomad today.
The Jefe Grande weighed in at 50 lbs, which is what LL states. Score one for LL!
FWIW, my Eskimo Speedo was way over what they said it weighed as well.
I should say that I love the Villain, punches holes great, stable, big. Cushy bulkhead, comfy seat. Loads of room for multi-day. Not the quickest eddy-catching boat; Nomad 8.5 is quicker than the Jefe Grande, which is slightly quicker than the Villain. I am 6'3", and I don't like the high seat in the Jefe Grande; don't need the extra reach; it feels more tippy than a Remix (short demo periods only in a 79).
A Riot Magnum 80 was the best carving creekboat I have demoed (actually the best carving boat period; Speedo was hard to control); predictable in a slalom course; maybe not the most durable boat though. In a side surf at the local playpark, I felt like I was getting beaten down by the edgyness of the Magnum. Have not tried a Burn; would like to. Expect an even more carvy boat than a Magnum 80.
Looking forward to trying a Stomper. Hoping for the predictable carvability of a Magnum 80, with less grabby edges.