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Old 05-17-2009   #1
Durango, Colorado
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SB Conversion Success!

Hey everyone, there has been plenty discussions on converting a bucket boat into a self-bailer over the past few weeks. Well I recently purchased a 13’ Hyside that was converted into a self-bailer, from “The Boat People” in Cali. I was skeptical at first because there is not a lot of info on significance both financially and physically on the conversion.

Well when I got the boat I was very happy, it’s a very stout Hyside with 20” tubes and the floor is nice and firm. The only thing that worried when I first got it put together was that the floor was very tight against side tubes which may make it bail really really slow! Here’s what it looks like:

Well I was able to take the take a few laps on the Lake Fork last weekend and at the first of four mellow class IV rapids, (Surprise) the boat was completely filled with water as the crew and I were practically swimming inside the boat. To my surprise the boat bailed fairly quickly and was empty within about 45 seconds!

On another note, The boat tracked like a Bushman. I would think this has to do with trapping a small amount of water between the old bucket floor and the new Jack’s floor(along same idea of an Aire floor). The Bucket floor had holes punched in the side much like a SB with a non-lace in floor.(THE ORGINAL FLOOR WAS NEVER REMOVED). The new floor is attached to the bucket floor with a lacing strip running down the middle of each floor. With the lacing strip and the thwarts the floor doesn’t float up at all, I Haven’t tried to float it without the thwarts because I haven’t built my frame yet. Here are a few pics of the floor set up.

Finishing up, the Floor is generally Perfect, it fits like a glove, its from JPW, and its nice and firm. Molly Dog is one happy girl sitting high and dry.

Hope this helps anyone considering doing the conversion, let me know if you have any questions.

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Old 05-18-2009   #2
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Good job on implementing the second "R" - reuse. The floor also seems nice for the pup, very flat and not sloping towards the drainage holes.

I am a river, babe - I've got plenty of time, I don't know where I'm going, I'm just following the lines..... - "We are water" by Shaye
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Old 09-22-2009   #3
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I am thinking of doing a floor conversion on a 14 foot campways. However it seems like the SB floor will be $1400 and that is too much to put in an old boat. Ideas? Who is JPW
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Old 09-22-2009   #4
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jacks Plastic Works= JPW
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Old 09-22-2009   #5
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Pretty sure it's Jacks Plastic Welding
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Old 09-22-2009   #6
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my bad- welding would be correct, I was working with redhill motorcycle werx , hence the works confusion.. I stand corrected
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Old 09-22-2009   #7
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Thanks. Will look around for a cheaper SB conversion.
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Old 09-22-2009   #8
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Davisoz - I've researched a conversion before and have also seen this question kicked around quite a bit by veteren boaters. The general consensus is that unless you have a lot more time than money, and you also have a line on a really cheap SB floor, it's easier and cheaper to just take the $$ you'd spend on the floor conversion, combine that money with the proceeds you'll get from selling your bucket boat, and buy a used SB.

That said, it looks like Targos has a workable setup - I'm really looking forward to hearing how it handles on the rio!
Nothing in the world is more yielding and gentle than water. Yet it has no equal for conquering the resistant and tough. The flexible can overcome the unbending; the soft can overcome the hard. - Lao Tse
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Old 03-23-2012   #9
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JPW custom floor

Is the floor built like a Paco Pad with foam inside? I assume you inflate it. Does it have a c7 valve? Does it have a pressure relief valve or is it high pressure floor? How did you solve the problem of water between the old bucket floor and the Jack's floor?

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