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Old 05-05-2010   #31
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We used a spot on deso last summer and it worked fine, sent all OK and tracked us along the way for my wife to see.

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Old 05-05-2010   #32
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Originally Posted by SimpleMan View Post
Anyone else try to transmit the little updates from a SPOT while in a canyon?
Yampa, Cataract, Westwater, Deso/Grey, Stillwater, Labyrinth, Dolores, Snake (Murtaugh) and a bunch of really tight slots in Southern Utah. I'd say I had 95% of message delivery. The SPOT will keep sending a message repeatedly until the message goes through.

It does take of up to 10 minutes for the message to go out (for SPOT to lock on to a satellite), but it does go through. Maybe your friend was moving too much, or didn't wait long enough. It could possibly be a faulty unit. They had a recall on earlier versions and also on the Spot2 original 600 units. But I've had two SPOTs now and both send out messages just fine.


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Old 05-05-2010   #33
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I'll go with your idea of a faulty unit or operator error kazak. It sounds like your extensive experience with this unit trumps my earlier post.

I'd say get one!
Dude, I'd see you on the river but I'm hardly ever out there.
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Old 05-05-2010   #34
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I agree, didn't Randaddy use one on his Green River to Grand Canyon trip?
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Old 05-05-2010   #35
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Originally Posted by Jensjustduckie View Post
I agree, didn't Randaddy use one on his Green River to Grand Canyon trip?
I am not sure but I don't think it has a "low on beer - please resupply" mode.
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Old 05-05-2010   #36
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Originally Posted by BLott View Post
well yeah.

that doesn't least from a parent's perspective, that it's not a good idea to increase your level of safety with a simple tool. Like I said...before parent-hood I never once considered something like this.
Children make parents think differently. My kids all pitched in to purchase a PLB for their old dad last Xmas. after I researched different options sat. phones etc. I told them it would be a waste of money but they made me promiss to take it with me on outdoor adventures. So that is that. I am carrying a Spot because of my kids also.
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Old 05-05-2010   #37
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Your original question was Sat phone vs. PLB vs. self reliance. Lots of folks pumping technology here, but I think you need to start with self reliance.
First, you need Wilderness First Responder. It can help you deal with alot of little things before they become life threatening (and drastically speed up rescues by having your victim stabilized before the rescue crew arrives.
Second, I strongly recommend a swiftwater rescue class. It is extremely difficult to keep a parent out of the water when their child is in there and needs help. A swiftwater rescue class will help you make better informed decisions about the best way to help your child when they are struggling in the water.
Then, last of all, I would think about technology. Yes, it can be a huge help in the right situation, but with out the above two things in place, it might just serve as a body recovery notification.
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Old 05-05-2010   #38
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I don't anyone who has posted here in favor of technology would say that it replaces self reliance and the proper training. Don't forget to train the kids too. It is never too early to talk to them about never standing in the river, whistle signals, and practice swimming in a current and catching throw bags ( or more accuratly the rope and not the bag).
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Old 05-05-2010   #39
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square one question

what's a PLB?
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Old 05-06-2010   #40
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Originally Posted by Mike Hartley View Post
what's a PLB?
PLB- personal locator beacon. Ever try the google?

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