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Old 04-28-2013   #1
Enfield, New Hampshire
Paddling Since: 1990
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Old aIRE Force XL?

I had a chance to try out the XL force on some cl 2/3 water and was really impressed by its handling.It punched thru 4foot waves with ease and held a ferry angle beautifully.It was also easy to eddy out without having a down stream drift I have noticed in some IKs.It also surfed some small waves with ease.

My question is how will it do in harder water where there are many 3-4ft ledge drops and holes?In short, in technical cl 4.

Thanks for any comments /real life experiences with this particular boat.


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Old 04-28-2013   #2
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I paddled one for 10 years, and I am at the high end of their capacity. I bought it weighing 240 lbs and went up to 320 lbs. (I'm lighter now, lol) When you fill one, they bail kinda funny, like a submerged ball. They aren't stable until the cockpit is only half full. Hard/ pushy eddy lines tended to flip me as much as rapids, I had little trouble with big waves and holes. Higher volume stuff was pretty fun, I really like the low volume pointy nose for big waves. You didn't have to climb to the top of a wave, you could punch through pretty easily, and the wave isn't trying to kick you sideways if you hit them head on. Boats like th e Lynx tended to do that to me. I didn't like it for small rock ridden rivers, it has a hell of a long water line for creeky type stuff with no rocker. I seemed to always get hung up on little piddly rocks, and some would flip me. I once went off a 12 foot waterfall no problem, and proceeded to get caught and flipped on some tiny little low volume class II just below it. Hope this helps.

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Old 05-08-2013   #3
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The boat kicks butt for the more advanced duckier or oversized underskilled creeker...boofs,surfs, carves into eddies, punches holes,and is faster than other less forgiving and harder to reenter than other duckies ...squirrrly laterals and penciling into holes not a strong suit ..doesn't resurface as well as a creek boat or bigger volume ducky with rocker,..-have run many class 4 manky runs and travertine full of small falls and large ledges mostly successfully..landed 15 footers clean..faceplanted on a 20 footer ( had about 20 ft of flatwater warm up for first drop of season) ..really. FU rock infested -too low water runs have gone poorly with punctures and swims..but have Elfed many times too..kicks ass in ocean surf...just took it on Southwest for free., barely met their size and weight limits..regular ducky probably too big...hope that helps..a little late...oh weight ranged from 225 -270 since I 've owned the boat...there was a video of Favre rolling his repeatedly at a good play spot..don 't know if that was _the XL or the normal one but the outfitting is tight enough to roll well...
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