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Old 04-11-2016   #1
BEND, Oregon
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New Zen L or Med

Ive been paddling a L Burn for the passed 2 years, it was decent to learn in but has always felt too big for me, im 5'11 172# I was looking to demo a Zen but wasnt sure which one is best for me, as im in between the specs for both! any advice, similar situation? thanks!

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Old 04-16-2016   #2
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I would round up, but that's me. If you ever load it with extra gear it would be a no brainer.

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Old 04-16-2016   #3
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Same Question

I am the same height and weight and am also considering a Zen. Would love to hear some thoughts as well. Packing it with overnight gear would be a rarity, so I'd rather have the correct size for typical day trip gear/use. My paddling is typically bigger volume rivers with minimal creeking.

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Old 04-17-2016   #4
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FWIW, I'm 5'-10" and weigh 160. I demo'ed a M and that was the right boat for me.
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Old 04-18-2016   #5
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Medium, unless youre going overnight a lot...!
I paddle a large, and it is correct for me at 235lbs. I also do self support.. although sadly pretty infrequently... we will see how that works with the Lg zen. It has 10gal less volume then the superhero.
Straight from the employees/team, JK sizing is generous. (i am well above suggested range of 220 lbs for a 4fun or superstar, and those boats have both worked out great for me...) of course, you got to actually demo, to see how it feels.
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Old 04-21-2016   #6
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I was planning on demoing a Medium Karma, we have a lot of rad creeks and big water stuff, i have heard mixed suggestions on the zen over the karma vice versa, anyone have a preference? i wont be able to demo these in WW so all advice would be great!
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Old 04-22-2016   #7
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You're definitely a M in the Karma, could probably go either way with the Zen. The L Zen is a pretty big boat despite the "89" gallon volume measurement, so it would float high and need some strength to maneuver. The M Zen would be more river runner, playful, but possibly a bit more of a handful in hard V-V+ whitewater.
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I have lots of time in both boats. At your size you should be great in the Zen Med and Karma Med. A lap in a demo will tell you for sure.

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