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Old 12-24-2009   #1
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Latest in throwbag technology

Pretty cool development from Shane and Woody at LL

Shaneslogic a kayak blog: The Speedloader Challenge

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Old 12-26-2009   #2
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Those look great. I believe It is time for a new rope.


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Old 12-27-2009   #3
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Cool. It is one of those things that looks so obvious once you see it. If I need to buy a throw bag I'm getting that one fer sure. Stuffing a long rope into a 4" diameter hole is no fun at all and I'm surprised it took this long for someone to just make the hole bigger.

The big appeal, as they say, is that it is a pain to restuff a bag after the action is over with and this bag solves that problem.

I wouldn't plan on restuffing a throw bag for a 2nd throw, however. This was kind of alluded to in the video. I don't think that's gonna happen. If you don't have 2 throw bags on you then I think you need to fold (not coil) your rope as you retrieve it and then toss it again without restuffing it. Mike Mathers teaches the technique and I assume other swiftwater instructors do too.

In any case, I always have 2 throw bags when I'm standing in a spot for safety. I leave the smaller one on my body (chest pocket) and hold the big daddy for the first throw. If I miss then I can dump the first rope in a heap and chase with the one in my pocket. That is plan A and plan B. I am not going to be the guy standing there with my dick in my hand if I miss the first throw
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Old 12-27-2009   #4
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Sweet! That's the rope. Will they make a bigger one for those of use that like 75' ropes on our rafts?
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Old 12-28-2009   #5
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Got you covered Randaddy.
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Old 12-30-2009   #6
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Perfect! Does it have a brick in it for extra throw weight?
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Old 12-30-2009   #7
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sure looks better than the gimmicky football WRSI has out. i bought that one because it was the most amount of spectra for the best price, but the closure system on the bag is total bullshit. i will probably keep the rope and retrofit it into a different bag.
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Old 12-30-2009   #8
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I agree with tango

I purchased one of those football looking throw bags just to check it out. I liked the idea and it looked like a winner in the shop where I looked at the unit.

My complaint is the same, in that the unit is next to impossible to repack in my yard. If it is that difficult in the yard, I want no part of it along a river during an actual rescue.

Do not know who they used to prototype this design but they screwed up a basically good idea with a really bad container.

I will probably do the same thing, IE use the rope for something else and trash the bag. right now it is setting on a shelf.
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Old 12-31-2009   #9
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I got a football too, wanted a small bag for when weight matters. I think the closure could be improved by replacing the bungee cord for a static cord. but
now mine will sit on a shelf too, I'm gonna get one of these.
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The football bag itself falls apart in a matter of weeks if taken on the river daily. Many guides I know that bought that throwbag had to keep it in another dry bag to prevent losing it, having rope dangle in the water, etc. Terrible application.

This new one looks dandy.

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