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Old 01-05-2013   #1
Cincinnati, Ohio
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help me buy a creeker jackson vs fluid

Hey guys,

I run a Jackson 4 fun on class 3 water and on some class 1 rivers due to the location.
I want to buy a creeker to have a longer more stable boat with lots of volume. Also the additional speed will be nice.

Should I purchase a Fluid solo l or the new Jackson karma.

I can purchase a new fluid for about half the cost. I understand the solo is an older boat with less attractive outfitting and features but will I notice a difference in the modern style karma at My skill level?

I am 6'3 190lb


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Old 01-05-2013   #2
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i would go with the solo personally. i like jackson but the karma is new and unproven. granted dane jackson just won the wwgp in it, but im guessin this isnt dane jackson ! lol. ive never heard anything but praise from solo owners, and half off?! jump on it. too bad theyre new bazooka isnt half off......

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Old 01-05-2013   #3
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pm GearDog on here or leif, they're fluid pros.
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Old 01-06-2013   #4
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Well I haven't paddled a Karma, but the Solo was my second choice last winter when I was in market for a new creeker. That was before the Karma or the Bazooka came out. I still hear good review about that boat and personally would rather a Fluid over a Jackson.
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Old 01-06-2013   #5
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You're paddling in Cincinnati. Boat choice is the least of your concerns!

All kidding aside, welcome to the Buzz. For getting started creeking, go with the cheaper option. If you get a deal on it, you'll be able to sell/trade with little value loss if you figure out that you need something different.

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Old 01-06-2013   #6
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Can't say enough about the Karma: Great initial stability, super comfortable, wicked secondary stability, shallow draft for gliding over the bony stuff. A great boat!
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Old 01-07-2013   #7
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I am 6'1" 195#, have been paddling a Solo for a few years now and am more than happy with it. Not sure what year Solo you are looking at, but the outfitting is great in the 2010 and newer boats and still pretty good in boats a little bit older. (The older boats may need a seat part replaced, but it is relatively easy -and cheap- to get) Also, Fluid is a great choice for a used boat because it's plastic is darn near indestructible.

I have paddled a number of creekboats over the years and find the Solo to rank among the best of them. It will give you the stability and speed you are looking for. The difference in price between it and a new Karma makes it a no-brainer. Use the money saved on gas for trips out to West Virginia.
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Old 01-07-2013   #8
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Have you thought about The Bazooka, fluid's new creek-boat? I haven't paddled the karma, but I can tell you The Bazooka is a great boat.

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Old 01-07-2013   #9
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I'll second the bazooka if you want to go the way of Fluid. Check gearswap section, recent saw a bunch of cheap bazookas for sale by Gavin.
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Old 01-07-2013   #10
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The Fluid solo's a solid boat. Proven and reliable. It was my main creeker until the Bazooka showe up. It's totally changed my approach to creeking and I absolutely love it. Not sure about the Jackson Karma. Some good mates and paddling partners ride for Jackson and like the new Karma. I'd you can get a Solo on the cheap, my bet is you'll be pretty stoked on it.

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