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Old 05-31-2016   #1
Enfield, New Hampshire
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diesel 80 vs Mamba 8.5 [the original version]

Could anyone with experience in both these boats give me an idea how they compare for river running cl 3/4? I am not concerned with outfitting pros and cons , just paddling performance.

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Old 06-07-2016   #2
Worcestershire, Midlands, UK
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I feel more connected with the Diesel. Less prone to being slowed up and backlooped in stoppers compared to the older Mamba. More playful hull when you want it to be for surfing and spinning. Faster hull IMO than the old Mamba.

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Old 06-07-2016   #3
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The old mamba was a weird boat, plenty of volume but in all the wrong places, with edges that were more of an issue than not. The Diesel had a much better overall profile, the edge was better used and I liked paddling it 10x more. The other thing that gave the upper hand to the Diesel is Wavesport's incredible outfitting.

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