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Old 07-24-2015   #21
Bloomington, Minnesota
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180 and 5'7 love my nomad 8.5. Forgiving and loves to bounce off manky rocks.

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Old 07-25-2015   #22
salida, Colorado
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You want a Pyranha Ammo medium and I just happen to put one on the swap, let me know

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Old 07-25-2015   #23
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Good discussion... thanks! Sounds like I have a few boats to try out.
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Old 07-27-2015   #24
Kenai, Alaska
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6'1" and 175 lbs and paddle an 8.6 Mamba here in Alaska creeks and found it super easy to paddle and drive

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Old 07-27-2015   #25
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I thought I would revisit this thread concerning creek boat design. How many different variations on a theme can you come up with for an average 180 lb. human to climb in, to go down a steep creek? Basic Creek boat design hasn't changed. Look at a Dagger Freefall, or a Pyranha 240. 15 years ago creek boats were getting shorter and shorter. Nowadays we’re going in the other direction of larger and longer. Newer boats have better edges. Volumes have been tweaked in all the right places, without sacrificing handling. Examples could be more bow rocker or a better water shedding peak on the rear deck. The progression toward harder edges comes and goes. These are all pretty similar and each Mid-range 80 gallon-ish model have similar dimensions of around 8’2” to 8’5” lengths. I’ve paddled all these on Vallecito and Bakers and can say they all have their pluses and minuses. BlissStick Mystic holds a line and the outfitting is so tight. Shiva boofs incredibly well with a single stroke. Stomper lands in turbulent water and surfaces so quickly. Mystic and Shiva snap into eddies. Stomper’s super-rockered profile floats and bobs over everything. The Dagger Nomad does all these thing commendably. The Karma drives a line and rewards aggressive paddling. All these boats have great qualities. You’ve got to paddle the boats and see what works for you intuitively.


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