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Old 08-31-2011   #11
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demo demo demo i love my diesel 80!~

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Old 08-31-2011   #12
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I'll throw a word in on the Fluid Solo. I'm seeing a lot more of them, and really like the way they look and handle. I haven't paddled one, but they are starting to pop up more and more.

Jefe, Nomad, Burn, Solo,

demo, demo, demo, demo

if you can pull it off demo them on the same run, so you KNOW the differences

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Old 08-31-2011   #13
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I too am in the market for a new creeker. I'm comng off the habitat right now and am really liking the way the Shiva looks. Wishing I could demo it right now.
It's true. It's a toss up. I want edges in big water and a displacement hull for lower volume creeks. It's also important to ask yourself what you'll be doing with the boat and be honest about what kind of water you'll have it on.
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Old 08-31-2011   #14
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Most of you shopping creekboats and needing demos are a little far from driving range to NOC, so I can't help you there when talking Stompers. But we did put together a little video showing our head paddling instructor Jon Clark's opinion of his Stomper demo. Check it out if you think it may help...

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Old 08-31-2011   #15
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Originally Posted by tj@cu View Post
If you want no edges go with the jefe, not as much speed as the others but is a very forgiving boat and a great way to get into creeking also makes up for the learning curve when learning to boof.
If you want something with a bit more edge try a nomad, it has more speed and holds a line a bit better and still boofs well, add a bit more edge and you get into the villan and habitat (more speed not quite as good of boofs), and a bit more edge you get into the burn/hero more edge hold lines great better if you want to run pushy water. But as others said talk to friends ask them what they like everyone has pros/cons of their boats and you should then go out and demo a few of them before all the water runs out.
How does the amount of edge affect the boofing?
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Old 09-01-2011   #16
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To start, one should check out the Stomper, Shiva, and Villain.

The Pyranha Shiva has a soft edge, progressive rocker, peaked deck for easy resurfacing and width towards the stern for speed and stability.

Dagger is planning to unveil a new creekboat, also.

All these are surely excellent boats.
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Old 09-01-2011   #17
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when is the dagger boat supposed to come out?
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Old 09-01-2011   #18
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Definitely check out the Villain. Just bought a Villain S and it kills everything you throw at it. Super solid, rolls easily, holds a line with confidence and takes everything on like child's play. The Villain is sick!... Just sayin.
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Old 09-01-2011   #19
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Hey man,
I'm almost exactly your size...I paddle a Villain S and paddled a Nomad 8.1. I have no real complaints about either. I think these are the two superior creek boats for a guy my size. I personally didn't care for the Jefe as much and I haven't paddled a Burn. either way I'll give you the same advice as everyone else...demo them all!
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Old 09-01-2011   #20
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Sounds like you need a wavesport godzilla. Best new creekboat on the market.

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