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Old 03-22-2010   #1
ashland, Oregon
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buying cat in a few hours

hello all, today is the day. thinking of getting aire lion 16'. Boat will be gear/beer haulin
2-3 peeps and black lab tops. week long trips,class 3-4 runs. i was going to buy sotar,but they have a 3 month back up. i don't know ? so i'm down to a nrs river cat or the lion.
What do u guys think about the 16'lion ???? she has some big tubes, i think 27".
is this to big ???? maybe i should go for an 14' ?????
any help would be bitchin. I don't know s__t about cats, other than a 14' raft = 16' cat
are the aire boats good ????? few hours till i drop cash !!!!! can't wait anymore. lol thanks buzz

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Old 03-22-2010   #2
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AIRE is one of the major boat makers for a good reason. They're well made and have an amazing warranty. NRS boats would work too. Neither of those designs are sporty, and are best used to haul. I'm biased towards AIRE personally.

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Old 03-22-2010   #3
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no need for fast boat, just beer and gear haulin. aire seems like the best deal,
with there 10 year, and u.s. made. but are the 27" tubes a over kill ???
would i be better off with the 14' lion with 25" tubes ????
2-3 people 3-4 day trips all the time and a few 6-7 day
6-7 day trips would have 2 people on boat, maybe dog

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Old 03-22-2010   #4
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go with hypalon. Proven to last for years! Check out the ol' school squareback in the "rafts for sale"...hypalon at its best.
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Old 03-22-2010   #5
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Sounds like you'll need the 16' for load capacity, and I agree with Alpha AIRE boats are great if you did ever puncture a tube they're really easy to repair on the river as long as your zippers aren't full of sand...
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Old 03-22-2010   #6
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Originally Posted by green snow View Post
i was going to buy sotar,but they have a 3 month back up.
Three months? Have you looked at their stock boats? Sales Hotsheet | SOTAR

Aire makes great boats. I have had three for nearly 20 years. But Ashland is just down the road from SOTAR and that could be handy if you ever need service/modifications. With 27 inch tubes you will sit up high and have to think about your oar geometry a bit when you get your frame and choose oars.
Real adventure is only one bad decision away.
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Old 03-22-2010   #7
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ya they sold the boat i was going the buy 2 hours before i called, bummer.
every time i call the waiting list gets longer and longer. plus for being the best, why don't they give a 10 year ???. they are very nice boats but waiting till end of june maybe longer doesn't sound fun. i've been to sotar's store. also nice if you want tan tubes.
i would wait if this was a play boat. but it's for my man and his dog to carry me and my girlfriends gear, lucky guy
14' big tube cat or 16' ??? sounds like i need the 16'
thanks guys
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Old 03-22-2010   #8
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Hard to go wrong with the 16 foot Aire Lion. Any smaller boat would become a pig with three people, a dog and a week's worth of gear. I have an Aire Jaguarundi, and it's marginal with that kind of load. It's also big enough for that Grand Canyon trip you'll want to do soon.
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Old 03-22-2010   #9
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How about a 16 X 24 Maravia? No zippers to worry about like on an Aire, made in Boise, and you get a 10 year warranty. On silty rivers the sand vs zipper thing is a big problem. Been there ...... done that...... not fun. Also, I've always wondered if the people who say Aire boats are so easy to repair have actually repaired a tube on river???? I've helped with a few repairs, and it wasn't what I'd call easy by any means.
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What she said, (cataraftgirl) I have to agree. Hard to beat for do it all size cat. I've owned three and never had to repair one. 16x24 for sure.

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