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Old 07-07-2008   #1
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You don't need a diver or a crane. It's flowing 11K. Just wait until it goes down to <5K in September and you'll be able to have surface personnel attach multiple heavy tow cables from multiple heavy tow trucks, then just winch it out very slowly. Unless some governmental agency tells them they must remove it immediately because it is a hazard to navigation or something...
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Old 07-08-2008   #2
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This is a little off topic...Butttt...how many of you have heard of Project Rulison?

High Country News -- March 7, 2005: Drilling Could Wake a Sleeping Giant
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Old 07-08-2008   #3
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Regarding Crocket's highly conservative estimate of 150 acre-feet per year for the oilfield support trucks

A couple of things to consider:

1) Senior Western Slope water rights probably go for $10K - $15K per acre-foot (This isn't the cost of each af of water, its the cost the right to take that much water from the river each year)

2) Oil companies have already been buying up senior water rights all around the Western Slope for years in anticipation of the massive amounts of water they'll need when oil shale extraction goes into high gear.

Its highly doubtful that they're taking the water without a decree.

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Old 07-08-2008   #4
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Actually that was not my estimate. I have no idea what is being pumped out of the river or who is pumping it.

As far as water rights. Chevron donated a substantial amount of water from the Gunnison basin about 10 or 15 years ago when they made a decision to get out of that area.

Chevron, Exxon, BP and Shell have substantial mineral and water rights in this state. Chevron's date back to the 1940's. I suspect the others do also. The Federal Government needed oil for World War II. As an incentive to get oil Companies to develop it they made concessions.

I would not be surprised to here that Ecana, Noble and other large independents are buying water but the majors have owned it for many years.
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Old 07-09-2008   #5
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Boy has this gotten off topic....

you guys sure have a lot of faith and goodwill toward the energy industry....easier to do if they're not drilling in your backyard, I suppose.

if you're going to assume that water isn't being stolen because the industry has been buying up water rights in anticipation of future use, ask someone who knows Colorado water law about "use it or lose it" and the "anti-speculation doctrine"

fwiw: I've actually never seen a tanker truck with a company logo on it...they're usually all white.
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Is that tanker still there?
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should have been removed last week!!
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Someone needs to get down there and pull a couple of splatwheels on that bad boy!! I would love to see a picture of just one boof
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Someone needs to get down there and pull a couple of splatwheels on that bad boy!! I would love to see a picture of just one boof
I was screaming this earlier as well. somebody geta splat pic.
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