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Old 05-04-2009   #91
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North Fork and Zion Narrows

I am new to this forum and make no claim to be an experienced Kayaker. Living in St. George Utah and working an outdoor store for the past 24 years has provided me with opportunity to periodically get out for some river fun, specifically a short stretch of the Virgin River within town during spring run-off. I began doing this in the mid to late 90's. I also have done two upper GC "dead heads" with Sleight Expeditions quite a few years ago. 2 years ago I did a bottom section private for 11 days on the GC. I had an opportunity to do a bit of duckie paddling. I have wanted to "float The Narrows for many years, not knowing what it really entailed? A year ago in april I finally made the leap! I had recieved a bit of beta from unnamed as to access into Deep Creek. After hunting for several hours located a 15 minute walk to Deep Creek (4 miles above the confluence with The North Fork). Unfortunately the access is through private land and we were fortunate enough to gain the blessing of one of the landowners. 3 of us embarqued that morning, for a beautiful trip. Don had a hardshell (very experienced paddler) and Mike and I had Tomcats. shorten the story....I ended up going over a small waterfall unvoluntarily. Knocked unconscious, cut through my helmet and definately messed up my shoulder. After spending a time on shore regaining composure, patching my tube and learning river signals we pushed on. The water level was low (220cfs at Springdale guage) which I was thankful for. The rest of the trip was amazing.....I learned a tremendous, experience and common sense are key. I had shoulder surgery for my torn rotator cuff, but anticipate getting back into the saddle again. I will never ever take kayaking lightly again and hope to learn through information and experiences of others!

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So does the park service not allow you to do an overnighter in this canyon?

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It seems like the general answer right now is no and the best you can hope for is an answer of weather-dependent. But we got several different answers before we got to zion and then the day we got our permits the answer at the BC desk was no.
I was going to be vague but then I decided to do this other thing.
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Old 05-04-2009   #94
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So does the park service not allow you to do an overnighter in this canyon?
i overnighted the narrows on the 1st & 2nd of this month. the backcountry desk would not issue us a day permit, only an overnight, because they did not want us to go in underprepared. an overnight is more fun anyway. a group put-in ahead of us on the 1st with an overnight permit, but reportedly pushed through in one day. we did not see anyone else on the river. the backcountry desk seemingly did not have a problem with finishing an overnighter early.

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