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Old 08-03-2009   #71
 
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Old 08-03-2009   #72
 
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Which river?
The lower Deschutes, Oregon... Trout Creek to Maupin. It was our honeymoon...

Sorry guys/gals no horses involved. Unless you consider my horse sized schlong...

Thanks everyone for the great names! I'm liking Huck and Hope so far but keep 'em coming...
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Whiners and Criers Mocked

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A sign in front of Wildcat Canyon Liquors on U.S. Highway 160 on Monday touts beer on the river. However, open containers of alcohol are illegal in Durango, including on the Animas River and at public raft put-ins. Store owner Erika Pray says the sign will be changed. “You’re going to love the next one,” she said. She plans to promote Ska Brewing’s canned beers. “I think too many people in this town are whiners and criers,” she said.






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Whiners and Criers Meet to Whine and Cry and Propose Limits

Residents hit a limit over river issues

Officials brief neighbors on progress in dealing with Animas 'explosion'

by Garrett Andrews
Herald Staff Writer Article Last Updated; Saturday, August 01, 2009
As bottles and flip-flops pile up south of town, unleashed dogs fight and become intimate near the put-ins. Wispy clouds of pungent gray smoke can be detected far down the streets. Young people openly curse their elders, and one 33rd Street resident even claims to have caught subjects smoking meth in her front yard.

Things have gotten so bad on the Animas River this summer, fly-fishermen report they can't even cast without hitting a floating body.
"We've now hit a breaking point where we need to be thinking about other options," said Durango Director of Parks and Recreation Cathy Metz.
More than 20 residents and three dogs came to an informational neighborhood meeting Friday afternoon at the 33rd Street put-in to exchange horror stories and meet with representatives from the Durango Police Department, city government, commercial rafting companies, the Animas River Task Force and Trout Unlimited. Metz wanted to brief residents on the progress the city has made dealing with an "explosion" of river traffic in the last three years, particularly that of the ringed, galvanized variety.
Alcohol emerged as perhaps the No. 1 problem, and the idea of a curfew was breached.
She estimated she saw about 500 people along the Animas on a recent weekend bike ride through town. Other residents echoed the feeling that summer river recreation in Durango has blown up of late and many revelers are making life difficult for those who live along the river.
"I'm really sick and tired of it," said resident Tim Wolf. "By the time they get downstream, a lot of these kids are drunk out of their minds. It's like having a bar in town where you don't have to be 21, you can do anything you want, you can be abusive, you can get in fights and no one's going to do anything about it."
The city began a marketing campaign this summer called "T is for Tubing" to persuade more tubers to use the free public trolley, or the "T," to get upstream. The city has also set up a compressor station near the 29th Street put-in for inflating tubes, in the hope of dispersing river traffic and cutting down on drunken driving.
Durango Fire & Rescue Authority public information officer Dave Abercrombie said DFRA typically doesn't see fatalities on the Animas below Bakers Bridge north of town, but his department has been called on to deal with a growing number of stranded tubers who get stuck or decide too late not to try their luck with Smelter Rapid. Many, he said, are unversed in basic river safety.
In response to complaints, the Durango Police Department increased its presence at the put-in. Capt. Jim Spratlen said the department added 290 extra patrols in the last two months and dealt with 451 calls to the area, many of which were initiated by patrol officers.
As a result of the extra patrols, Durango Police wrote six underage alcohol consumption tickets, seven for disturbing the peace, eight speeding tickets and 27 open-container citations. Code Enforcement officers wrote 43 parking tickets near the put-in.
"We've been trying to throw as many officers at this area as possible," he said, shortly before officer Rob Haukeness pedaled by and said hello. "My officers have been knocking this place out. They love it."
Spratlen left the meeting briefly to speak with two shirtless tubers who passed the crowd with an 18-pack and a plastic bag full of crushed cans, offering the beers for $5 a piece.
City Manager Ron LeBlanc said the meeting helped him prioritize resident complaints. Alcohol, he said, seemed to be the primary issue, a factor in most calls to police. The city of Durango already has an open-container policy, but city councilors could vote on an ordinance sometime before next summer that would prohibit even unopened bottles and cans on the river.
After alcohol, LeBlanc said the city might tackle the matter of a curfew. The city set a curfew for the skate park in response to complaints, and LeBlanc said the city might also consider posting signs near the put-in and closing it down at dusk to cut down on after-hours partying.
As if to underscore the complaints, the passenger in a small sedan rolled down his window and hollered at assembled residents at the meeting during a lull in conversation.
"River power," he said.
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why are we all being serious again...do you think that what we have to say is gonna have any effect on the outcome of laws...i personally have lost all faith in democracy...seems to me that all we have gotten is more laws...i dont even know that replying to this thread is legal or not...a bunch of post menapausal women are m aking the rules now, and if theyre scared of something then it must be illegal
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Residents hit a limit over river issues

Officials brief neighbors on progress in dealing with Animas 'explosion'

by Garrett Andrews
Herald Staff Writer Article Last Updated; Saturday, August 01, 2009
As bottles and flip-flops pile up south of town, unleashed dogs fight and become intimate near the put-ins. Wispy clouds of pungent gray smoke can be detected far down the streets. Young people openly curse their elders, and one 33rd Street resident even claims to have caught subjects smoking meth in her front yard.

Things have gotten so bad on the Animas River this summer, fly-fishermen report they can't even cast without hitting a floating body.
"We've now hit a breaking point where we need to be thinking about other options," said Durango Director of Parks and Recreation Cathy Metz.
More than 20 residents and three dogs came to an informational neighborhood meeting Friday afternoon at the 33rd Street put-in to exchange horror stories and meet with representatives from the Durango Police Department, city government, commercial rafting companies, the Animas River Task Force and Trout Unlimited. Metz wanted to brief residents on the progress the city has made dealing with an "explosion" of river traffic in the last three years, particularly that of the ringed, galvanized variety.
Alcohol emerged as perhaps the No. 1 problem, and the idea of a curfew was breached.
She estimated she saw about 500 people along the Animas on a recent weekend bike ride through town. Other residents echoed the feeling that summer river recreation in Durango has blown up of late and many revelers are making life difficult for those who live along the river.
"I'm really sick and tired of it," said resident Tim Wolf. "By the time they get downstream, a lot of these kids are drunk out of their minds. It's like having a bar in town where you don't have to be 21, you can do anything you want, you can be abusive, you can get in fights and no one's going to do anything about it."
The city began a marketing campaign this summer called "T is for Tubing" to persuade more tubers to use the free public trolley, or the "T," to get upstream. The city has also set up a compressor station near the 29th Street put-in for inflating tubes, in the hope of dispersing river traffic and cutting down on drunken driving.
Durango Fire & Rescue Authority public information officer Dave Abercrombie said DFRA typically doesn't see fatalities on the Animas below Bakers Bridge north of town, but his department has been called on to deal with a growing number of stranded tubers who get stuck or decide too late not to try their luck with Smelter Rapid. Many, he said, are unversed in basic river safety.
In response to complaints, the Durango Police Department increased its presence at the put-in. Capt. Jim Spratlen said the department added 290 extra patrols in the last two months and dealt with 451 calls to the area, many of which were initiated by patrol officers.
As a result of the extra patrols, Durango Police wrote six underage alcohol consumption tickets, seven for disturbing the peace, eight speeding tickets and 27 open-container citations. Code Enforcement officers wrote 43 parking tickets near the put-in.
"We've been trying to throw as many officers at this area as possible," he said, shortly before officer Rob Haukeness pedaled by and said hello. "My officers have been knocking this place out. They love it."
Spratlen left the meeting briefly to speak with two shirtless tubers who passed the crowd with an 18-pack and a plastic bag full of crushed cans, offering the beers for $5 a piece.
City Manager Ron LeBlanc said the meeting helped him prioritize resident complaints. Alcohol, he said, seemed to be the primary issue, a factor in most calls to police. The city of Durango already has an open-container policy, but city councilors could vote on an ordinance sometime before next summer that would prohibit even unopened bottles and cans on the river.
After alcohol, LeBlanc said the city might tackle the matter of a curfew. The city set a curfew for the skate park in response to complaints, and LeBlanc said the city might also consider posting signs near the put-in and closing it down at dusk to cut down on after-hours partying.
As if to underscore the complaints, the passenger in a small sedan rolled down his window and hollered at assembled residents at the meeting during a lull in conversation.
"River power," he said.
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I read this the other day and the thing that sucks the most is the potential curfew. I know it's an old argument, but on the Lower A, it is almost always the tubers who are shitfaced and they are not the ones doing full moon floats.

Other observations: Even before the new BUI law there were open container laws. The consequences are just more defined now. I've shared a beer with more than one ranger- common sense is definitely the ticket.

Some states do not have an open container law for passengers in vehicles, Colorado isn't one of them unfortunately.

A good friend of mine has a saying that seems appropriate for when to drink on the river: "Not Before Class IV". I would extend that to include Class III depending on the river, the group, and other variables, I guess.

FWIW

P.S. That must be one sexy horse...
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Again, a few ruin it for all.

If it keeps up, they-police, land owners-ect, will road block everyone. Make everyone go else-where. The comunity hopes everyone will keep it up, inso the regulations will be inforced.
The comunity will get their way, in time.

I dose not matter who is doing what, where. All will suffer.
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28 beers per person per day is a good law of thumb-whether the revolution comes or not- and within eaaasy reach of aaall occupants and well secured in case of a flip...
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Just sayin, ezz back on the rough spots, duck-under the radar (raft), pound as you go, on high ground (beyond the view.)

14 cases on a 3 day trip, w/4-people=168lbs. of beverages.

1 bag of smoke=priceless.
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yeah...the safety meetings are mandatory...im boating with you...can we still bring the horse???what if the horse is the same sex and drunk???
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Just sayin, ezz back on the rough spots, duck-under the radar (raft), pound as you go, on high ground (beyond the view.)

14 cases on a 3 day trip, w/4-people=168lbs. of beverages.

1 bag of smoke=priceless.
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