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Old 05-24-2016   #21
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Great questions- I will try to answer

The Spring Creek area is relatively near two of the BLM parcels that would be lost. However, Spring Creek is very quick after the canyon (public), so the need to stop there as a rafter is minimal and much nicer to stop down river. Truthfully, I would prefer a further downriver stretch to stop at past BLM G and H, but it does not exist. BLM I is much further down river, but also serves as a nice stretch break (after a long time in the boat) before the final private stretch to the take out.

The confluence area is the take out and essentially public all ready, I would not consider that portion to affect rafters (and truthfully rafters take out before the confluence).

You are correct, BVR is not responsible for making improvements to public lands. However, in the exchange, BVR is paying for river improvements to the confluence area, the take out, and is in charge of the toilet/spring creek rest area.

Based on this, it seems that the negotiation table is open to having BVR provide public improvements that BLM either lacks funds or for, or is unwilling to provide. The put in is getting pretty eroded and has always been trecherous. Putting in at Spring Creek would be nice too as it would shorten the float for rafters.

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Old 05-29-2016   #22
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ALERT: As of today, Sunday, May 29, 2016, 10 days until the exchange Wednesday, June 8, 2016 BLM written Comment deadline. See links in this thread's original post for BLM contact info to submit your written Comment.

Let's see if we can clarify, confirm and then submit written Comments, in your own words, to BLM by the current June 8, 2016 deadline, about the Proposed Blue Valley Land Exchange. The exchange should be in both the public's and private's interest so that All Win.

The general participants are the public and private property interests. The specific participants are the private property interests of the Skylark Ranch, Blue Valley Ranch, Blue Valley Acres and the public property interests of the Federal and Summit County (Open Space). Read the exchange to confirm as I may have mixed up Blue Valley Acres with Blue Valley Estates, etc. Of course, the entire general public, Grand County, City of Kremmling, Blue Valley Estates, hunters, kayakers, anglers, rafters, other outdoor recreationists, other private property owners along the way up or down the Lower Blue, etc., also have an interest. However, the above entities that represent the private or public interests have property directly involved and, therefore, have the ability to proceed with or abandon the proposed exchange.

At certain exchange process points in this real estate exchange transaction, the entities with property interests may elect to proceed with, negotiate and/or abandon the exchange. See links in this thread's original post. At certain deadline points, all public and private interests may Comment. One of those Comment deadline points is Wednesday, June 8, 2016 after which BLM will review them to determine if the exchange is "in the public's interest".

Possible alternative Comments:

1 Propose to support retention of the proposed exchange's existing language in both the private's and public's interest

to increase and eliminate parcel access (see exchange links in original post of this thread) for fishing and hunting;

wildlife preservation;

Spring Creek permanent easement kayak only takeout/raft rest stop only;

proposed property exchanges and stream and takeout improvements near the confluence, etc.;

2 Oppose to support one, some or all amendments and/or additions to the proposed exchange in both the private's and public's interest that proponents provide:

a permanent easement for walk in access from Spring Creek Road parking area to the canyon's USFS public parcel on the west side of the Blue;

a Spring Creek or Spring Creek alternative permanent access easement or reservation of existing public access at Parcel H (with permanent access easement on existing road from Spring Creek Road across from the parking area to Parcel H) (See map links in original post of this thread);

additional permanent public access easements at intervals between Spring Creek (or Parcel H) and confluence access points;

identity of access easements' holder;

adequacy of proposed and additional access locations for current and future use;

contractual assurances for the public's use rights that include navigation, floating, fishing, etc.;

mitigation by alteration or contractual agreement providing permanent easements or other mechanisms for scouting, portaging and safe navigation and passage around and/or over obstacles;

the future process for management planning regarding public uses of the river above and below Spring Creek Road, etc.

(NOTE: The last several points in #2 are excerpted and paraphrased from Summit County's current Draft exchange Comment letter.)

3 Oppose with one, some or all amendments and/or additions to the proposed exchange that are only in the private's interest.

4 Oppose with one, some or all amendments and/or additions to the proposed exchange that are only in the public's interest.

5 Comments in addition to or separate from the above Comment alternatives.

Remember, to be reviewed and included in the exchange process by BLM, you must submit written Comments.

Also, if you submit written Comments to BLM, how about posting them here in this or a new thread?


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