Originally Posted by codycleve
Has anyone done three forks to birch creek... they have a decent snowpack and I didnt draw any permits... I have done frome rome down... can you do it in five or six days accounting for a portage at widowmaker? Too few days too many??? Could possibly stage a pickup at roam to replenish beer and food to cut weight for the upper stretch...
Not sure what you are looking at, % of average SWE is below average right now at about 86%
here is the Oregon map, Idaho and Nevada portions are similar
It is even worse than it appears. There is a new 30 year base line that kicked in this year for making the calcs of what is "average" or "normal". The new baseline includes several dry years, which skews the % of average calculations higher than what would have been reported under the previous 30 baseline. Bottom line for the Owyhee, take that 86% of normal SWE right now and substract about 17% and that is what you minds eye is calibrated at if you have been following the Owyhee snow pack and run off in previous years.
Bottom line, if we don't get a bunch more snow then the Owyhee runoff will be fairly brief and probably similar to last year although last year was extra dry.
The other thing, three forks to Rome is generally referred to as the "middle" owyhee, Rome to Birch or Leslie is the "lower". Upper owyhee is stuff upstream of Three forks to the EF/SF confluence.
Yes to all your questions. But unless you are at a smoking high flow, 5 to 6 days to do Three Forks to Birch is a silly proposition, unless you just only have that many days. You would be pushing hard. I personally do nothing less than 5 days/4 nights just for Rome to Birch, you got to get some hiking and chillaxing time in. If it were me and I was doing Three Forks to Birch and planing on a portage at Widowmaker, I would probably be looking at 8 days minimum.
We are going to probably do 5 days on a 45 Ranch to 3 forks run which is only 45 miles this spring.