Originally Posted by 86304
that's right force them to do what YOU want!
bend them to your will! that will make for a happy group!
we usually let each boat do their own lunches, anyway. that way at least you can have at least one meal a day that's what you like, or not eat lunch if you want.
saves a bunch of time and one less chore/crew job and clean up.
how would letting someone eat their own food ruin the trip for anyone. once they figure out how much extra gear they will have to bring they'll probably come around anyway.
i hope you all realize i'm just 'playin' devil's advocate' here. i've seen too many TL's go all dictator and not let the group be part of the process.
here's an idea that i use.
take a vote!
see how many people want to do group only.
how many want to allow individuals to do their own thing.
majority rules, if it's a tie, TL makes the call.
usually you can trust that the majority will make the right decisions.
So I'll play devils advocate to your devils advocate!
Been on trips with "independent thinkers"
Who want to always have something a bit different to eat than what's available. Or want it cooked different than everyone else.
Who want to camp over there, on that side, not on this side
Who want to stop now, not in 20 minutes, or want to go another 20 minutes, instead of stopping now
Who want to load your boat their way, you know, cause they wanted to sit there on that cooler today, and by the way, can you make sure I get the sun today? Yesterday was a bit cool in the shade.
Who want their bag accessible just in case they might need something
Who want the groover over there, not over here, cause you know, that's where I was gonna put my tent.
At first you wanna accommodate them
Then you start a little game with yourself, guessing what their problem will be with this time.
Then you realize, they don't want to be independent as much as they want to be in charge, but from the sidelines.
Or just want to be special
Then you just want them to go off and shaddap.
See, when I'm the TL, and it's my trip, I have a vision. I'm not trying to George Patton the group, but dammit, I was really looking forward to a day at Thunder Falls, and If that doesn't fit your plan, then perhaps you should find another trip, or here's an idea; you file the application, you pay the fees, you plan it, and you do all the work. Then you can have it your way.
And voting? Sure;
"what do you guys think about group VS separate food. Lets talk." ................"Okay, lets vote"....................
"Ok, catering from Ruth's Chris every night isn't gonna happen; group meals it is. Who wants to bring the 1st day?"
But. If my wife says "what if we.................?" then being a good husband I know, that's the way it's gonna be.