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Old 02-05-2008   #1
gusman4

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South fork of flathead?

hello, i was wondering if anyone here has any infomation about this float in the bob marshall wilderness? any info about would be appreicated. I know its more of a fishing trip but i figured id ask anyway. i couldnt find alot of info on the pack mules to bring gear in so any info here would be appreciated.
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Old 02-06-2008   #2
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hello, i was wondering if anyone here has any infomation about this float in the bob marshall wilderness? any info about would be appreicated. I know its more of a fishing trip but i figured id ask anyway. i couldnt find alot of info on the pack mules to bring gear in so any info here would be appreciated.
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bring some big ole nuts, prepare for many portages, wavetrains that will swallow your ass, mandatory drysuits,eddies that will tube suck a 16 footer guicker than you can say ole shit, super remote, in case of medical no heli evacs available, did i mention grizzlies, logjams the size of texas, OOHHH YEA HYPOTHERMIA, ever use a defibrilator. LOCAL ps water temp never gets above 40 son
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Old 02-06-2008   #3
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Uh, I didn't boat it, but the section I hiked next to the river looked really, really mellow and the geology seems to support that same kind of river bed the whole distance. Wide, too, so I could see logs getting hung up on gravel bars, but not in a coming-in-hot emergency kind of way. I think most people do it in small inflatables with the biggest hazard being sunburn. I'm pretty sure Norfwestg is pulling your leg about the gnar, but I didn't see the whole run??? Water was very cold though, but that's what the lunkers like. It's a very broad glacially carved valley so super low gradient and gravel/small boulder bars were the nature.

The mule people have a big barn right at the lake where the trail starts on the west side of the range. So if you look up that location it might help narrow your search. Probably fairly expensive to do the mule thing because they don't seem short of paying customers, but you would NOT pack a duckie yourself that distance unless it was an Alpacka (sp?) or something of that nature.

It was 2002-ish that I was there so I don't remember much about the trailhead, 'cept it was not far off the highway and next to a fair-sized, mountain lake. I grew up maybe 4 hours from there so I'd always wanted to see it. We did a week long 100-mile loop. Beautiful area, glad I got to see it, but too much horse traffic/waste on the trail to be an area I'd want to hike in again given all the other good choices out in the world. Smelled like a barn the whole time on the trail. Bugs were HORrendous up high where the tarns were holding moisture, but in the actual river valley it was drier and they disappeared. We came around a corner on a big brown and so walked backwards quietly, waited about 10 minutes for it to catch our scent, then kept going and didn't see it again. You're so far from anywhere that it does leave you feeling a little exposed, but not dangerous beyond the usual precautions. The fishing was outstanding. Wild onions on the river bank stuffed inside added extra flavor. The river trip is something I'd like to do sometime, especially since with the new mini-raft technology you can reasonably carry one yourself.

Hope you get a chance to go. Have fun.
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Old 02-06-2008   #4
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here is some info from a guy who did it last year, i think. has contact info for horse packers too.

TR--South Fork of the Flathead, MT
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Old 02-06-2008   #5
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thanks for the info everyone.
gus
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Old 02-06-2008   #6
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At least one company runs the SF Flathead, including the Meadow Creek Gorge, commercially:

White Water Rafting in Montana on the South Fork of the Flathead

Sounds like mostly class I-II , with six miles of IV-V. Great fishing.

Also check out AW's pages about it:

American Whitewater - NWRI - Flathead, South Fork 2. Mid Creek to Cedar Flats



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Uh, I didn't boat it, but the section I hiked next to the river looked really, really mellow and the geology seems to support that same kind of river bed the whole distance. Wide, too, so I could see logs getting hung up on gravel bars, but not in a coming-in-hot emergency kind of way. I think most people do it in small inflatables with the biggest hazard being sunburn. I'm pretty sure Norfwestg is pulling your leg about the gnar, but I didn't see the whole run??? Water was very cold though, but that's what the lunkers like. It's a very broad glacially carved valley so super low gradient and gravel/small boulder bars were the nature.

The mule people have a big barn right at the lake where the trail starts on the west side of the range. So if you look up that location it might help narrow your search. Probably fairly expensive to do the mule thing because they don't seem short of paying customers, but you would NOT pack a duckie yourself that distance unless it was an Alpacka (sp?) or something of that nature.

It was 2002-ish that I was there so I don't remember much about the trailhead, 'cept it was not far off the highway and next to a fair-sized, mountain lake. I grew up maybe 4 hours from there so I'd always wanted to see it. We did a week long 100-mile loop. Beautiful area, glad I got to see it, but too much horse traffic/waste on the trail to be an area I'd want to hike in again given all the other good choices out in the world. Smelled like a barn the whole time on the trail. Bugs were HORrendous up high where the tarns were holding moisture, but in the actual river valley it was drier and they disappeared. We came around a corner on a big brown and so walked backwards quietly, waited about 10 minutes for it to catch our scent, then kept going and didn't see it again. You're so far from anywhere that it does leave you feeling a little exposed, but not dangerous beyond the usual precautions. The fishing was outstanding. Wild onions on the river bank stuffed inside added extra flavor. The river trip is something I'd like to do sometime, especially since with the new mini-raft technology you can reasonably carry one yourself.

Hope you get a chance to go. Have fun.
well SCHIZZLE you wanna paddle this spring runoff, have you seen the grizz ???? fuck the lunkers
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well SCHIZZLE you wanna paddle this spring runoff, have you seen the grizz ???? fuck the lunkers
ps that shot from raftus, which is way cool is at about 2000 cfs, yea cubic feet a second, IMAGINE 30,OOO, whoa is all im gonna say, we will se that this spring, until mid july
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well SCHIZZLE you wanna paddle this spring runoff, have you seen the grizz ???? fuck the lunkers
I have seen the grizz, didn't stop to pet them though. I stand corrected after looking at the gorge section on AW yesterday. I assume that most people take out above that section if they're there for the fishing, wild ride if you miss the takeout. If you're there just for the paddling, is it a hike or a drive to just do the gorge? This spring is going to be huge up there! 6 feet on the ground at my folks place. What's your snowpack %? Must be upwards of 200%, similar to '96.
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runoff

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I have seen the grizz, didn't stop to pet them though. I stand corrected after looking at the gorge section on AW yesterday. I assume that most people take out above that section if they're there for the fishing, wild ride if you miss the takeout. If you're there just for the paddling, is it a hike or a drive to just do the gorge? This spring is going to be huge up there! 6 feet on the ground at my folks place. What's your snowpack %? Must be upwards of 200%, similar to '96.
snowpack will be huge, 125 percent now, and rising, definitely using a shovel to see out my windows, southfork is wild, spotted bear ranger station may help the guy out that wants to float it, later
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