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Old 10-06-2011   #11
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I probably can't make it down to TF this weekend, but PM if any of you want the numbers of the local kayakers down there.

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Old 10-08-2011   #12
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Originally Posted by afraid View Post
what's the deal? It's running @6000 cfs? which gauge is best? anyone run this in an oar boat? we are thinking of giving it a try, camping, but we haven't been, nor do we know anyone who has rafted it.

Looking partly sunny with highs in the upper 50s for you Murtaugh floaters.

And you will get some sun down in the canyon. I would love to float that again but I will be working all day.... dammit anyway.

Yes it has been done in an oar boat. You will have to deal with running or portaging Pair A Dice. Not a bad portage as portages go, up and over a large flat rock about 70 yards or so if memory serves me correctly.

I don't know the run well and I didn't get in trouble leading it either time I have been down. I wouldn't say it is read and run, but the lines seemed pretty obvious except for Let's Make a Deal which has five options through the islands. I think it's harder to find the put in than to figure out the runs on river. Plan on having a car you can drop on your way in and pray you don't get an upstreamer when you get to the lake.

Do it. It is a lot of fun.

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Old 10-08-2011   #13
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Originally Posted by ducksrus View Post
which deep creek is this?..what state?
It is near the Hagerman canyon of the Snake River in southern Idaho. Pretty central. It is a bunch of basalt ledges that you drop over on the creeks way to the Snake River.

At least from what I can tell. Haven't run it personally but know generally where it is.
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I would say the rapids before Pair a Dice are read and run, mostly through the middle.

After PaD the rapids become trickier, even at these flows.

For one, PaD kinda sorta sneaks up on you and unless you know where you're going it's hard to know you need to absolutely run left of the first island, and then you need to know how catch that mandatory eddie.

After PaD, you have Hooker's Ledge, which has a sneak but is a tricky move because the water spills over the rock... a raft group got caught there a few years ago and surfed for over an hour, and it ended in a fatality. It's not a hard rapid but has a must make move, especially for rafts.

LMAD is a little more obvious, but again, you need to know you have to run the 2nd door. I wouldn't want to run doors 4 or 5 in a raft, that's for sure.

Redshanks and Duckblind are a bit easier in a raft but still have some holes/pour overs you'll want to miss.
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Is Deep Creek always in ? (springfed like the Malad?) If not, how does it come in this time of year?
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Deep Creek is in for a few weeks each fall, and I have heard it is also in briefly in the spring. I know it gets run a lot in the fall especially. It is essentially an irrigation ditch and that is why it is "in" this time of year.

My opinion is that Deep Creek is worth doing at least once. Two good waterfalls and a few good rapids help you forget that most of the rapids are manky, the water quality is poor, the overhanging brush is heinous, and generally the trip wouldn't be worth doing at all except for the two waterfalls and few good rapids.


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