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Old 04-15-2015   #11
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Dumont to Golden...low flows for BR if you want a marathon of IV water.

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Old 04-15-2015   #12
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Originally Posted by gannon_w View Post
Dumont to Golden...low flows for BR if you want a marathon of IV water.
Oof. Can't agree with this advice. If Black Rock is IV- there isn't enough water for the in-between stuff to be much fun. And if you're not banging through the in-between stuff, Black Rock isn't IV-. Other sections of Clear Creek are decent class IV training grounds though, assuming you can stay in your boat.

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Old 04-15-2015   #13
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It's been a few years since I've done it, but the section below Black Rock seemed to be a fun 3+/4 kind of run if my memory is correct.
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Old 04-15-2015   #14
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If it's possible I'd suggest getting on class IV when the water is lower and following the water all the way up. The Poudre and Arkansas Rivers are good ones.

For example run the ark as much as you can at 500ish, 700ish, 1000, etc.
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Old 04-15-2015   #15
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If you're just looking for a good training run and you're in Ft. Collins, it's all about the Poudre.

If you're looking for variety, I'll throw another one out there - Alto Alto on South Boulder Creek. It's much maligned by some people, but it's got a couple really fun class IV- rapids and lots of class III. It's scenic, just bring your pogies. When I was trying to graduate to class IV, I loved it. It gives you more of a creeking class IV feel too, compared to the Poudre or the Ark (even though the latter two rivers are certainly better quality IV).
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Old 04-15-2015   #16
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Originally Posted by lmyers View Post
Personally I only thought Upper Mish, and Pineview had class 4 character, the rest was read and run 3-3+.
Mish falls and Pineview are the only two IV's I'm pretty sure. Most of Steven's down is III-III+. 3 way can be tough in a raft, but in a kayak it's pretty easy (unless it's really high, then it turns into a big nearly river wide hole).

If I had to put the sections of the Poudre in order of difficulty, it'd look something like this:

Filter plant II
Lower Mish III
Upper Rustic III
Bridges III
Poudre Park III (Pineview IV, but you can take out before it or walk it)
Lower Rustic III+
Upper Mish III-III+ (Mish falls IV, but can take out above it or walk it)
Middle narrows (IV+)
Lower narrows (V)
Uppper narrows (V) <- I've never done it

Pineview is easy to do laps on, and if you start at low water and keep running it as it comes up that would be a pretty forgiving way to up your game.
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Granite through Pine Creek and Numbers at 800-1200
Granite through Pine Creek to Numbers put in is a IV? I thought it was harder. Or is it just that level at the flows listed? (Never run it, just researched)
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Old 04-15-2015   #18
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If anyone's interested I think I'm heading down to run laps on Pine creek/Numbers this weekend (4/18-19). Low flow but good early season water. Not sure if I'll make a day trip or overnight.

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