Originally Posted by BilloutWest
Clarno to Cottonwood is about a prefect stretch with minimal risk for kids under 10.
I second that recommendation. Motion carries.
The fishing for small bass is just unbelievable. Each kid can catch 20 a day if you're willing to bait and untangle. Think barbless hooks and needle nose pliers for releasing. Have a variety of jigs.
I think kids under 14 fish for free in Oregon and that may apply to out of state.
There are swallow nests overhanging that can be a treat.
I live relatively nearby in Redmond and may be able to do your shuttle for some of my gas expenses. Need to get out more.
(I've only floated it once so I cannot advise on CFM's)
With all due respect, she is talking about a trip in late june at the earliest, and then mentioned any time in july. The lower John day is pretty damn skinny in July, average flows at Service creek are typically well beylow 1000 cfs in july, floatable yes, but a lot of work. Clarno Rapid below 1000 cfs is not particularly easy in a full size raft. Also the lower JD is pretty dam snaky in the middle of summer, and this is coming from someone that has worked in some pretty dense rattler areas like the Black Canyon of the SF John Day.
The other aspect is you have to get a limited entry permit now for the Lower John Day (from Service Creek down to cottonwood). There will be a lot of competition for permits for the time period that is still barely floatable with rafts as this is the best fishing period. (late june to early july)
The GR will have plenty of flow in July so you can really go any time, no limited entry permit system to hasle with like on the JD, lots of pike-minnow for kiddo's to have fun angling, water flows along a lot faster so easier for the person on the oars, shady camps to get out of the bliserting sun, nice bathtub water in mid to latter july on the GR for kid swimmin, way less rattlers than the lower JD (but more cougars and wolves), about the same drive time from Puget Sound area between the two. Shuttle cost is the same between the two.
What ever you get on though, the kids will be stoked!