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Old 01-31-2016   #1
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Arizona Season 2016

I am looking for information on when to time a trip this season.

We'd like to run oak creek and fossil above base.

Also planing on the verde. The verde seems to be in already and things seem to be on the rise around it.

We saw spikes on fossil creek already but heard there is snow on the rim.

Any advice as to what to expect for this season?

Planning on last two weeks of February or first week of March.

Thank you in advance, and thank you Jmcn, you have been helping me

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Old 01-31-2016   #2
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It is still cold up north and east.., and more snow coming tonight..
end of Feb/1st week of march is looking good!

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Old 01-31-2016   #3
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Those 3 weeks should be good. Planning AZ boating far in advance isn't really possible. Each round of precipitation brings opportunities. Im hoping to catch OC tomorrow. You see the forecast, wait for it's arrival, watch the radar, make your best guess. Hopefully the gauges agree with you when you head in that direction. With any luck Feb will be a wet one and runs will come in and stay that way for a while. It all depends on a number of things outside of our control. It is also what makes boating here so special. A new class III run in a remote place with manky rapids and wood hazards feels way more rewarding in AZ knowing you showed up on the only day it was in that season. With any luck this year will see plenty of days on the classics and hard to catch runs. Bring your mountain bike...
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Old 01-31-2016   #4
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These drainages don't often run at boatable flows. Unless you're rafting the Salt, expect narrow brushy channels and wood hazards. If you came here to go creeking, please be able to deal with the wood. Even our Class III creeks can have Class V consequences. If the flow is spiking huge, it's best to let it peak so the wood finds It's home and launch on the way back down.

Access isn't typically convenient. One exception is Oak Creek. OC is kind of a high profile run with plenty of Sedona tourists wondering what the heck you are doing?! If you are running the Indian Gardens section: Stop in at the market across the street. They have always been really cool to us kayakers by allowing us access and parking by the river. They have amazing sandwiches, beer, and coffees. I like to pretend Im in Europe or something when I aprés there. If for any reason they decided that kayakers suck, or they take up too many parking spots and never buy anything-well that would really change things for every one. The takeout for that run is often Telaquepaque. It's a kinda high end shopping center. Again, we've never had an issue or been harassed for parking there. I've always tried to use the spots closest to the creek and furthest downstream. (The Oak Creek Brewery has a good restaurant there, but for beers their original location in west Sedona has way better atmosphere.) If Telaqu is super busy, It's probably best to find another spot to park-good luck there. Point is, Oak Creek is really the only run in the state where the put-in and take-out is high profile. Please be good ambassadors of our sport, carpool that takeout vehicle as best you can, and treat your selves to something delish at IG Market.

For detailed info on runs I highly recommend Paddling Arizona. Tyler just printed another updated version available at the gear shops in downtown Flag. Boaters should also stop in at Flagstaff River Supply (Wet Dreams) on the east side. Jason has the only river specific retail in Arizona and his hand made sewn river gear is awesome...
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Old 01-31-2016   #5
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Very stoked for all the beta. We are respectful boaters who care about access for the future. We will have mountain bikes and a shuttle driver.

It's funny what you mention about the vibe around oak creek. I felt it the one season we saw it run. It ran huge and carried trees with it everywhere. We felt like aliens around all the rich tourist.

Reminded me of aspen trying to get on slaughterhouse.

See you guys in a few weeks.

Right now it's me and Jeff, any other boaters planning a trip?
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Old 01-31-2016   #6
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Hey Bob we will be around when you make it down. It would be good to paddle with some CO folks.

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Old 02-01-2016   #7
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Stoked you guys are headed down! Things are flowing with this latest storm! Its supposed to be really cold tonight so lots of this new snow will stick around longer than it normally would. Your timing to show up in a couple weeks is looking good! Had a fun run in the snow today on the Indian Gardens section of Oak Creek. There are definitely some problematic logs especially soon after launching from IG. Some of the rapids seem to have changed, not necessarily for the better, since last season. In all it was super fun and beautiful as always, but fairly manky at 275cfs...
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Old 02-01-2016   #8
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So fired up to hear that. We are front range mank specialists, we don't usually boat in water.

Looking forward to it, Peter we should meet up, josh could be around also it would be so rad to have a crew.

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Old 02-08-2016   #9
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canoeing verde

Hey there!
me and a couple of friends hopefully are going to try to get out on the verde in a canoe and whatever other kind of boats we can find... from beasly flats to horseshoe reservoir is the idea.. a laid back 4 night trip hopefully.. planning on going somewhere around end of February or beginning of march... also would love to try to join with other paddlers if possible!
I have no experience on the verde, no experience white water canoeing.. but have rafting experience!
If you have any advice i'd love to hear it! If you want to join, or want us to join with you lets talk!!!
+ I have a huge truck available for shuttling!
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Old 02-09-2016   #10
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Hey Nicole,

We will only be in Arizona for a few days. We are planning o day runs on oak creek, fossil creek and a hike in Christopher creek scout/run.

We wouldn't have time for a multi day run. We might do the verde day run as a back up.

Peter Holcombe is around the area longer than we are. Maybe send him a pm to see if they have time for a longer run.

You are welcome to join us, I'm not sure we are boating what you are looking for though.


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