Originally Posted by glenn
Friend left the default date by accident for one of his alternate dates pick in the lottery and got a Jan 2015 trip. Need to figure out in short order if it's something to follow through on. Initial plan would look like a small group of 4-8 self support kayak trip over 5-10 days. Anyone being considered would have a creek boat likely few or none have cross-over/race boats.
Never been. I understand the grand is awesome and I should take any opportunity.
How hard do we need to grind on the flatwater to have enough provisions/poop tube space to make take-out? Is it a situation where ever moment of sunlight is used trying to make miles or is there opportunity to enjoy the canyon outside of a boat with sunlight?
How much colder than the weather stations is it in the canyon with long periods of shadows?
Any known rentals available for faster cross-over/race style boats?
Thats a lot of miles in a short time but there are folks who have posted interest in such trips here in the past.
One benefit of the winter is winds are mild to non-existent compared to other seasons.
Someone mentioned refreezing food at night...I would not count on that myself. We were in shorts one Jan. for multiple days in a row. Weather can be just about anything in Jan: snow, rain, warm and dry. We went from 70-ish to 6 days of rain straight with temps in the low 40s. We had planned on ice the entire trip (rafts only) but temps were much higher than expected. Would hate for y'all to bring perishables and have them spoil.
The prettiest canyons tend to be 5-15 degrees cooler than the stations say: Marble and the Granite Gorges in particular. Open sections, like that around Cardena tend to be warmer. Tends to be warmer again for the 50 miles or so above Diamond.
One big loss to kayak self-support in the last few years was the discontinued mail service to Phantom Ranch. You can no longer mail packages as resupply so you will need to carry the entire trips food and other supplies.