Originally Posted by Mark the dude
Catfishjon is right. And I'd like to add that the guide was wearing shoes when he swam over to the girl. He gave one of his shoes to the girl on the other side of the creek, because she was missing a shoe.
When you deliberately lie in your fact listing, your argument doesn't really hold any merit, and you make yourself look like an ass. Nice try though, good luck with everything.
Just an fyi to the buzzards tearing him apart... Brett is a local here who is also a paddler, he's not some douche that decided to come on here & spew BS. He happens to be a great guy who is friends with a number of local FD people, so his info was likely straight from people who were on the scene. If there was any skewing or "lying" I HIGHLY doubt that it is coming from him. He's likely just giving information that seemed reliable but obviously is biased.(I'm also friends with many of the same people & would normally find them reliable enough to repeat as well)
No matter how you look at it, the CCC dep who pulled out the cuffs is a piece of shit who arrested someone who has far more experience on the river then themselves for trying to help.
The local FD here deals with a ton of river calls & I would normally consider them to be a VERY competent group. It seems to me that the majority of these issues are in Jeffco on CC, I'm surprised (and very disappointed) to see that this was in CCC.
I don't know who spotted the girl first, but it seems to me that is a very important piece of the puzzle that is missing/unclear. If AVA lost the girl to the extent that the locals found her before they did, then I have to say that the rescue op was CCC FD's op. (also pretty pitiful if that's the case) Is it hurting anything though for an experienced river guide to swim across... of course not.
Sorry, no guide is going to "become a victim" in Clear Creek at a crossing of his choosing. Nearly any of us (boaters) could jump in that river without endangering ourselves any day of the year without a problem. If it had been me, I would have done the same thing. OH, btw, fuck the power hungry people that make this kind of thing happen, I wish this wasn't in my county.
btw, I believe that "lawful & reasonable" per the code above would be very easily argued, but it doesn't get the cuffs off the guy.