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Old 07-26-2004   #1
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Woody Custom paddles

Anybody have experience with these paddles? What offset are you using? Is less offset helping strengthen your roll? thanks.

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Old 07-26-2004   #2
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Wayne makes a kick ass paddle!!!

I have no reason to mention this except for the reason that mine is really bomber and feels like its going to last many years. I personally have a 30 degree offset at 196.

Can't say enough about how great it is to have a semi custom paddle. Wayne worked real close with me in order to nail down exactly what I needed and built it to perfection. Worth every dime.

Another great bump... is that he will put your name and phone # inside the glass blades so if you ever loose it... you have a great chance of getting it back. PERFECT!!!

"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body. But rather...To skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming... WOW !!!! What a ride!!!!!!"
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how did you get to 196 and 30 deg offset? does the offset give you a more powerful roll?
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I use a Woody kreek'r 196 40 degree offset. I have paddled with almost every different type of offset, including 90, 75, 60, 45, 40, 30, 28, 12, and 0. I personally prefer the 40 degree offset because it is still a flat enough offset to make freestyle moves easy (ie loops, which are easiest with a 0 degree) and I like the power I get out of 45 degrees for a forward stroke. I prefer the stroke power over freestyle ability.

The offset will not make your roll any more powerful, imho. However, the length of the paddle will. Longer paddles give you more power in your forward stroke, and in a roll because you have more leverage off of the blade. Shorter paddles are good for freestyle because the blades don't get in the way as much, but they have less stroke power (because you don't need power, only a large blade to plant your moves off of). (FYI some creek racers use paddles up to lengths of 202 to get more power out of every stroke)

The grip width also makes a difference. A wide grip is generally prefered for freestyle because you are mostly throwing off of a planted blade and don't need much forward power from the paddle, because your body is moving around itself, not in a direction. (ie your center of gravity does/should not change when you are cartwheeling etc.).

A narrower paddle grip (not less than a 90 degree bend at your elbows!) will give you more power in your strokes and therefore your roll because you are increasing your leverage by having more paddle shaft on the outside of you hands.

All of that said, it is best to work on your roll without a paddle. Hand roll, hand roll, hand roll! I don't agree with purchasing a paddle to "strengthen a roll" because a hip snap and good roll technique should make your roll strong enough so that you don't even need a paddle.

I'm sure others on this forum will disagree with the above, so please feel free to give your view.

Oh, I love the paddle because it feels so strong, and the blades float nicely to offset the wooden weight. The paddles are amazing. If you want I can loan you a demo to try.
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Old 07-26-2004   #5
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I agree Kyle, practice is key. I'm merely wondering what the real effects of having less offset are. I've only paddled with a 45 blade. Thanks for the feedback.
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I also paddle a woody. The benefit of it being strong to me is very important. I had and AT break in two months, just rodeoing. Anyways, one more advantage of the woody, is that there isnt any hollow point on the paddle. This beyond creating incredible strength, also allows resistence to water, if you were to bump it, and cause a leak. So, you will never hear the similar sound to a rainstick, that you will in hollow paddles~!

My 2.435566 cents
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Old 07-27-2004   #7
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Surfpiper -- did you follow the link to Jim Snyder's page that Leland D. posted in the other thread? It's pretty comprehensive, & seeing as how Jim pretty much helped invent modern paddling technique, I'd say it's pretty well-researched & accurate. At the end of the day, the offset you choose will be a matter of personal anatomical comfort that no amount of e-babble will influence. So try some different angles & see what feels right.

Kyle -- do you even remember what it feels like to hold a paddle??? J.K.

Guska -- it's been awhile, chauncey. shoot me an email or a call & let me know what's up ....
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do you even remember what it feels like to hold a paddle???
No. But I still hold a lot of shaft, and if I was healthy I would work on my stroke technique all of the time.

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