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Old 04-03-2007   #31
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The two parcels that you cross though are 249000002 and 249000003. You can go to Routt County GIS Site and hit the subdivision/parcel ID. Then enter one of the parcel numbers and hit run search. You can then zoom in and zoom out, and pan with the arrows on the side. Basically Willow runs straight through these two parcels from north to south. I have a Plat and Brand book, which may not be completely accurate, but most likely pretty damn close. (shows where willow winds around) Willow access is on BLM, then runs into National Forest and doesn't appear to hit anything until these last two sections. Pretty sure this is all slack water. A few years back we called road and bridge about pariking. Don't quote me on this but pretty sure the county/public has rights to any pull off that is county maintained (at least on this road) I also believe a small section surrounding public road bridges is also fair game. This was based on a conversation with Paul ? at road and bridge. This was one of the first things that set Dave Moss off. Anyway, I don't really want to piss the guy off, but he has become completely unreasonable. Also not sure where any fence is above the take out fence, but if it is up the creek a mile, it is probably on public land. I think his land is only about the last 1/2 mile. The whole parcel is about 62 acres, and is pretty square ( a bit longer than wide). Making it most likely about 2000 feet. Someone correct me on my math if they see differently. Basically making all other portages walks, bush wacking fair game.

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Old 04-05-2007   #32
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just came across a photo of DM's laywer. Looks like you Routt County boys better be careful. I posted to the gallery so everyone will know who to look out for.

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Old 04-05-2007   #33
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im down to run this and if i have to get outa my boat and walk around this fence i will for the protection of my self from drowning! email me ill run and read up, this land is for the free and the rivers are still ours
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Old 04-17-2007   #34
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I have a plan.
Let's pick a date when willow will be running, and EVERY Class V boater in Colorado and Wyoming runs willow that day.
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Old 04-17-2007   #35
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She's going now- low but runnable. There are no new fences currently. You must go right at Whoopie.
I will destroy you.
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Old 04-17-2007   #36
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Anybody interested in doing a run this weekend? I was thinking maybe a Willow run and a playpark run one day and then a Cross Mtn. on the other day. I haven't done these but they've been top on my list for a couple years. Post, PM, E-mail, or Call if you're interested.

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We've done a couple of runs this year including yesterday. Sweet to bomb if you're a local. Don't know if I'd travel for it yet. Gauge is broken. We've figured it was in the 200s'. Yampa playpark/riverrun is so-so in the four-hundreds, like today. Cross is good at any level but would be best to combine. Or just camp at Cross.
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Any word yet on the phone number to call for the flows?
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Ask them to gauge it against what it was when Joe, Eugene, Kevin Fisher and I blazed it a few days ago. I guess it was Monday night, the 16th of April. Since the gauge is busted ask what they are releasing in comparison to that date.

We paddled passed the visual guage and it was 2'. This is the bottom level in my opinion. It is nice in there and there is a lot of wood that will move when the water comes up, so keep your eyes open. We will keep trying to pull some out as we go on frequent trips.

Caution, Whoopti Ridge has a large log blocking the left channel right now, the usual beat me in the face with willows line. Both channels on the right are navigable, the first one being almost too manky to avoid a pin and the 2nd channel on the right being clear but close to the wood on your left.

Choose your own adventure. At the take out I was also able to sneak under the far right palate that is suspended since the lower part is not attached. The landowner could attach it at any point, but at low water you can just protect your head and duck under the thing. After the bridge you can get out and I believe you are on public land, but please park in designated areas down near Clark or find a spot downstream that is not owned by the Elk River folks. They get pissed if you park on their land.
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