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I would respectfully disagree with two of these recent posts. I can personally attest that my Fox pads don't move once I'm in them. The only hit I ever took between the elbow and forearm cups was my fault because I pulled them on too high. Forearm cups are a lot more useful/important than I thought when I bought mine, too.
Second, concerning the IR pads - IIRC they have very thin or no plastic in them, just closed-cell foam, and they aren't that thick. I watched one of my NC homeboys get worked in Scream Machine on the Green at 150%, and then swim Nies' Pieces. In addition to getting his tailbone whacked hard, he took a bad hit on his elbow from that swim, from which his brand-new IR pads did not protect him. I gather that these pads are pretty comfy, but for serious protection I would go with something that has plastic cups.
MTB pads are really designed for hits on hard stuff, and to slide off that stuff - perfect for creeking. With closed-cell foam, they won't carry water inside. I'd head that direction.
FWIW
PHIL -- if you are out there you need to tell the masses about the power-engendering abilities of the Street Sport EXTREME elbow pads...lol And if you are out there you better return my call about Cross on Sunday...fool. "The perfect river, the perfect day..."
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