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Old 09-18-2007   #11
benpetri

Profile:  Golden, Colorado
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2. Raft guide about to enter something kind of gnarly was scouting from the boat, slipped, and got a non-locking biner hooked through the tendon on the back of his knee, the other end was binered to the raft. So this guide ran some class IV+ or V section with his tendons binered to the raft.
Oh yuck. Yeah I remember him mentioning that now. You gotta admit though that's a 1-million shot. If that happens to you, your number was up.
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Old 09-18-2007   #12
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clipped to vest?

why is it clipped to his vest or shoulder, was it there for use or to look cool when im not using them im sure as fuck not wearing one. to me its like wearing one of those throw bags around your waist, tie me to the tree and hang me now!
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Old 09-18-2007   #13
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Okay, snag potential is high on a non-locker. That's why I keep mine in the pocket of my vest. Just as easily accessible minus the hazards.

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Old 09-18-2007   #14
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I only heard the story and wasn't there, but I've definately seen a fair number of people wear their rescue tether clipped to the shoulder strap, esp with unlocking beaners. I used to but quit such practices after taking a SWR class and realized it was a dumb practice.

I now carry a full Z-drag in my PFD with a waist throwbag that I wear beneth the skirt so if it did play out, it would do it in the boat and not be dragging behind me in the river. Also has a quick release. That way I'm ready to set up shop at any point if I need to. The Z-drag is almost always overkill for kayaking (I've never used it on kayaks) but it's a damn necessity around rafts. Also, all this talk about biners and ropes means you always have a sharp, safe river knife on your pfd as well. An don't dull it up by carving wood at the campfire with it either. I also have gotten into the habit of carrying a substantial first aid kit in my creekboat, which thankfully I've never needed to use in a substantial way (dislocated shoulder is the most significant injury I've had to treat thus far, knock on wood). This is what I do. Other's definately do it differently and thats probably just fine. There's no universal method and though we don't like to admit it, luck defiantely can play as much of a role in a rescue as skill or equipment. You just try to set the odds in your favor as much as possibly by learning the skills and the gear.
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Old 09-18-2007   #15
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ropes

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to me its like wearing one of those throw bags around your waist, tie me to the tree and hang me now!
Casper Mike, if you swim and your throw bag is in your boat then it is going to unravel in the river and be a hazard for everyone else. If you swim and you've got a good wearable version then you have it if you need it and nobody is going do die snagging on that rope you've left in the river.

There were two ropes stuck in Kirschbaum several seasons ago and one ended up killing a guy from here in Steamboat.

maybe you never swim?....
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Old 09-18-2007   #16
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Casper Mike, if you swim and your throw bag is in your boat then it is going to unravel in the river and be a hazard for everyone else. If you swim and you've got a good wearable version then you have it if you need it and nobody is going do die snagging on that rope you've left in the river.

There were two ropes stuck in Kirschbaum several seasons ago and one ended up killing a guy from here in Steamboat.

maybe you never swim?....

if its in my boat sinched up in bag it wont unravel, and how is wearing one while you are swimming better than having it in your boat atleast it wont be attached to me if it does get snagged and my bag is clipped into my boat via non locking carribeener. you act like you know something but i would take that little bit of knowledge you thought you had and stick it back up your worthless ass. aca class 3 and swrt certified might pay to take some good classes. and most people lose there ropes cause they are dumb ass like you and i don't swim.
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Old 09-18-2007   #17
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if its in my boat sinched up in bag it wont unravel, and how is wearing one while you are swimming better than having it in your boat atleast it wont be attached to me if it does get snagged and my bag is clipped into my boat via non locking carribeener. you act like you know something but i would take that little bit of knowledge you thought you had and stick it back up your worthless ass. aca class 3 and swrt certified might pay to take some good classes. and most people lose there ropes cause they are dumb ass like you and i don't swim.
You never swim?
wow...
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Old 09-18-2007   #18
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wow

this caspermike guy must be pretty special
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Old 09-18-2007   #19
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you guys are just jelous that im didn't try out for the colo swim team like the rest of you, must not be special!
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Old 09-18-2007   #20
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you guys are just jelous that im didn't try out for the colo swim team like the rest of you, must not be special!
You clearly need to start running harder whitewater.

The Stikine season is now. Post up the pics when you return.
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