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Old 01-13-2013   #31
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wow . holly has no buisness on that river, lol- didnt even attempt to roll ! over and out ! tragic.

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Old 01-13-2013   #32
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Wow! A simple mistake....she could've easily drowned. Glad she's ok.

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Old 01-14-2013   #33
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In your area, check out the Georgia Canoe Association, Atlanta Whitewater Club, and the Foothills Paddling Club. You'll meet plenty of people willing to help you progress.
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Old 01-14-2013   #34
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Originally Posted by Skillkilla View Post
wow . holly has no buisness on that river, lol- didnt even attempt to roll ! over and out ! tragic.
Everyone starts somewhere. My first trip on the miracle mile I bail quick too.
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Old 01-14-2013   #35
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Originally Posted by co_bjread View Post
Can't emphasize that thread enough. OP, read it from start to finish.

Originally Posted by yak1 View Post
The move from class IV to Class V is move of the mind.....if you're good and confident in Class IV you probably have the skills. What you need for class V is commitment, confidence, flexibility, adaptability, and most of all total focus. The most important thing is to be able to look at a drop and accurately evaluate what it's going to take to get through the drop and be willing to put your boat on your shoulder and take a walk.

That makes sense if you're giving advice to a Class IV boater.

No offense to the OP, but it won't be relevant to the OP's II/III frame of reference.

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I joined this site last night to find other people who were serious about paddling
X3 on the BoaterTalk suggestion. Not that anyone is trying to give you the brush-off. Both these forums are somewhat "regional". BT has a heavier emphasis and more participation from members on SE rivers. The Buzz has a heavier emphasis on Western rivers.

Definitely find a crew...find some people who have similar (or slightly better) skills than you who want to run some III and play in some III and find some new challenges. Grow together.

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You risk flaming, but many of my favorite boating friends and mentors came either directly or indirectly from internet forums and plenty of flaming came with it. I knew no one who wanted to boat the rivers that I did, and it took some time to meet people that were if similar mindset.
I was lucky and found a lot of people who wanted to run the MF Flathead (III-) when I did. Recently, I've been lucky to find people on here to boat with in their local areas.

Also, willing to just introduce yourself to people at put ins and take outs. That is the fastest way to meet the local crew with local knowledge.
Absolutely. Bring beer and chips to share.

One time when I was a newb, my then- 2yo daughter left the freezer door open when she was getting a blue ice to put on a boo-boo. We had 30-40lbs of meat that thawed. My wife and I spent an entire morning roasting and dehydrating and BBQ'ing what we could so it wouldn't go to waste. I met a lot of people that afternoon when I showed up at the takeout with 10# of sirloin steaks and margarita fixins. 9 years later people still laugh about that day.
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Old 01-14-2013   #36
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Fantastic rescue, I like the barefoot guy and the dude with no helmet and his PFD unzipped...
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Old 01-14-2013   #37
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One of the other things that hasn't been mentioned yet is simple endurance. Each new step on the ladder comes with harder moves in harder water, all of which come down to more strength and longer endurance.

As example, I considered myself a relatively capable Truss lapper, but I was one tired puppy after my Little White run.

Since my shoulder injury, I've been using a hand crank machine at the gym to get strength back. You could do that and the rowing machine mid-week to speed your progress.
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Old 01-14-2013   #38
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Originally Posted by shonuffkayak View Post
Everyone starts somewhere. My first trip on the miracle mile I bail quick too.
Starting in the right place is key, and what most people are talking about. That girl was way over her head and a good example that to step it up (whether that means C IV or V) you not only need skill (yes, rolls are important) by experience and experience dealing with bad situations (why did she keep her paddle go back to her boat instead of shore? - maybe she didn't know about the sieve/risk and that's another problem.)
I am a river, babe - I've got plenty of time, I don't know where I'm going, I'm just following the lines..... - "We are water" by Shaye
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Old 01-14-2013   #39
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Do you know which section of the Chattooga that was? Doesn't look very difficult, just spots you don't want to swim into. Reminds me a bit of Elevenmile, I have seen people swim through 3 different sieves in that short class III/IV- stretch.
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Old 01-14-2013   #40
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Just moved out west from NC.. GA paddler if u can paddle both sections of ocoee and section 3-4 chatooga and u should be running rapids on pigeon and nanty backwards ..even though the only thing close to continuous in southeast is cheoah!!!
Run all this then go to tallulah ..

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