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Old 03-17-2008   #1
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What does AZ need to go off again?

Hey all
Just wondering what you all think its going to take for the AZ creeks to go off again? Is hellsgate done for the year? What about East Verde, is that even going to run? Do we need some warm weather or some rain, both? what is the best indicator that Christopher is in? Looking to do a trip down there soon, wondering what yall think, warm weather or rain and when? Any beta appreciated

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Old 03-17-2008   #2
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the most likely way for AZ to go off again this year is for the extire state to be uplifted and deposited in the NW thru some freak cataclismic tectonic force. otherwise you might have to wait 30-40yrs before seeing a winter like AZ had this year.

flow prediction or indicator? unless you're local and can leave with an hours notice you're pretty much fucked. i'd try a majic eight ball or a wegee board.

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Old 03-17-2008   #3
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i dont know about the creekin but the the salt and the verde are both flowing strong right now so whatever is flowing into them probably has water in it.
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Old 03-17-2008   #4
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best thing that can happen in az is, snow then rain ontop of snow... best flow indicator is going to be combined with USGS Real-Time Data for Arizona_ Streamflow

when were you thinkin about heading out?
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Old 03-17-2008   #5
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Ha. Force nailed it. HERE ...pray for some warm as f#@k days...then the flagstaff area will go off again. E. Verde and CC are going to need some rain to kick again, and even then it will most likely be a crapshoot. Other than that, watch the links that Mike listed and look specifically in the Flag / Sedona area.

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