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Old 05-28-2008   #1
Santa Fe, New Mexico
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Wanted: Cook for Private Grand Canyon Trip


I'm leading a trip of 7 people launching on August 12, for 16 days. We're like to find a cook/dishwasher who can also act as a relief rower. We're planning on having almost entirely cold breakfasts and easy lunches, so mostly we're talking about cooking and cleaning dinner.

Our group is willing to pay your share of all fees, food and boat rental (approximately $1,400). All you will need is your personal gear and to show up in Flagstaff on the morning of August 11th.

Please e-mail me if you're interested. List your river experience and please provide references. Non-smoking, light drinking is a must.

Looking forward to you joining our trip.

Be well,

Peter D.

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Old 05-28-2008   #2
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Damn, camp bitch for a canyon trip. What a deal.

Isn't this illegal?

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Old 05-28-2008   #3
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Sounds like a lot of work for $1400
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Old 05-29-2008   #4
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Hi Peter,

Hope you have success in filling out your trip, and have a great time. If I hadn't already had my one trip this year, you'd possibly be getting an email from me -- subject to what I'm about to say below.

Not playing cop here, but rather I'm trying to help you avoid what could be a pretty big problem.

This proposition seems to run afoul of the Park's regulation requiring that all private trip participants share equally in the cost of the trip. It appears to be essentially the same as something I know is forbidden -- paying a guide to help a private group go down. I'm fairly confident paying a kitchen worker/spare boatman would be viewed the same way.

A word to the wise is sufficient....

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Old 05-29-2008   #5
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who cares if its illegal, just dont be so lazy. thats part of a river trip-working together. That said my ideal trip would be a bunch of river friends, one cook and a bunch of strippers...
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Old 05-29-2008   #6
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Well the "who cares if it's illegal" crowd has always been out there. If fines and being banned from the river, or being pulled off the river in the middle of a trip, and maybe having your gear confiscated sounds like a good deal of fun, then have at it.

The Park pays attention to these things, and follows these lists and boards. And all it takes is one disgruntled participant (or someone who didn't get on the trip for some reason) to spill the beans. Suppose this trip launches, and then an unhappy camper calls the Park and drops a dime (it happens more often than you would think). Next thing you know, a ranger is waiting at Phantom, and the heartache begins. I just thought I'd tip him off that he could be headed for trouble.

And I guess deep inside I don't get it either. Part of the GC experience for most private boaters is sharing that kind of stuff -- not pawning it off on a person who might be regarded by some as a second-class citizen/hired hand.


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Old 05-29-2008   #7
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(snip) and a bunch of strippers...
A word to the'll have more fun with porn stars.
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Old 05-29-2008   #8
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Wanted: One person to play kitchen bitch for a group of unknown boaters. In addition to kitchen duties chef will be expected for rowing-relief. Qualifications include ability to bite one's toungue as they ride someone elses daftly-navigated boat through big rapids, and ability to 'relieve' boatmen by rowing through flat water. Successful applicant will possess excellent water/eddy reading skills, in addition applicant must not be a heavy liqour drinker no matter how lame his/her group is. Drug and nicotine testing is mandatory

sounds like fun, sign me up! I can supply a sample menu of '18 variations of Dinty Moore and instant potatoes' I suppose I can adjust to drink lite beer for a couple weeks........

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Old 05-29-2008   #9
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Does the lucky winner get to clean the groover, wipe asses, and run the shuttle too?
I might kitchen bitch for CaverDan and LiquidChaos trips but I will want the 1400 dollars up front and in small bills.
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Old 05-29-2008   #10
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I wonder if 'Griff' has any plans for August!?

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