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Old 03-03-2010   #21
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You swam that means people can talk shit on you, unless of course it is the guidebook authors fault then your set free. Thats why no one talks shit on my swim in gore because it was clearly cutch's fault for not telling me exact stroke placement. I would blame them for all of keck's swims but we all know keck can't read.

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Old 03-03-2010   #22
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we are planning a 4/20ish arrival at zion. should this be a safe bet for flows?

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Old 03-03-2010   #23
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Easy Martin Easy, go yell at the dog police to burn some energy, plenty up there.

In his defense, the helicopter rescue was not for him, but other boaters that got stuck that day as well.

Not in his defense, he screwed up and under estimated the run. We will continue to give shit for any/all swims that happen and show up on the buzz, me included. I seem to remember a whole thread based on who passed Tom at gore

For those going, call out the day you plan to paddle and have someone check the flows so they don't happen to drop on you the night you arrive.
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Old 03-03-2010   #24
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truth of it is, it could of happened to anyone in any number of situations. it cost us, so we gripe but we are all glad everyone was safe. Looking forward to my first run down this season. and be glad it was not a falcon guide book
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Old 03-03-2010   #25
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I just reread my first post and for the life of me can't see how it was very provocative. So... for the record, I wasn't intending to call any individual out. I just care about boating the Narrows. After "cemartin" went playground on me I looked into the Buzz history to figure out who was threatening me.

Curtis, l'll be 60 this summer. I can't remember being physically threatened since I went to an inner city high school back east. (43 years ago!) This is a waste of your time and energy and poison for your spirit. I can take care of myself but if you decide to take your playground attitude and go postal with it you'll find that I've got plenty of young bucks in my posse who've got my back.

On the other hand, if you want to take advantage of where boating can take you, come to BV and let's paddle together. I try to paddle at least every other day in season, mostly the Numbers and the Fractions. My posse is made up of club paddlers, old guys that have been paddling the Ark for 30 years, creekers who's pics are in yer fave guidebook, young bucks who are World's medalist freestylers, and Gore Race winners. They're all good people and like almost all paddlers they welcome others.

Dude, I'm calling you out. But I'm calling on you to be a bigger man than a hater.

I'm serious, let's boat together.

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Old 03-03-2010   #26
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The Narrows is a "Shit Happens kind of place". It's not your Town Run or Park n Huck kind of place. It's not your favorite sidecountry shot at Vail. It's a drag your boat and your ass 8 hard miles?... just to run the bottom 9 which just happens to be pretty good. It's pretty frickin deep as far as backcountry goes. That being said, it's an awesome trip, which I would do again ( if the Top 8 are floatable....100cfs or more?). You just have to be ready for intangibles. As far as the Falls, we had one our guys pig nose his boat on the center left we he threw his boat over and it only went in a couple of feet. The water goes right. Roll the dice, hit the boof if you can get it, I know folks have run it, but definitely check out it good.I think it changes quite a bit from year to year out. Broken ankles here would be muy malo. Also be prepared for an overnighter ( might be the preferable choice, great campsites from what I could see), you just never know........Have fun and be safe, peace
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Old 03-03-2010   #27
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This whole post made me laugh!!! Phil, you did nothing wrong...some people need to grow up and learn how to speak to other adults! YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE... bad boating experiences can be great learning experiences... soak it in and let it go! Be safe out there everyone!
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Old 03-03-2010   #28
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Kayaking is the shit. You are in charge. The decisions you make do come w/ consequences. Sometimes its a loss sometimes its the greatest day ever. When I make bad decision I try to admit it, say I'm sorry, and try to learn something(easy to say hard to do). We all make bad decisions occasionally. When they effect others we ought to to especially be aware of that.
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Old 03-04-2010   #29
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For those that have been there - will a shredder fit into and be able to run the narrows?
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Dude, I'm calling you out. But I'm calling on you to be a bigger man than a hater.
Phil, your the man A few other Ark Valley boys (plus a couple of buzzards), and myself are planning to go to AZ in 2 weeks if you want to get a little "warmer" paddling in...otherwise we need to go paddle as soon as the river thaws!

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